May 21, 2006

Opinionist: Metro Elevator Etiquette

Kelly_Mack.jpgThis Sunday's opinion piece was written by Kelly Mack. Feel like sounding off? Email us .

Metro elevators are one of my obsessions. Without them, I wouldn’t be able to get around DC, because I wouldn’t be able to ride Metro. Elevators are essential to wheelchair users.

Before leaving for work, appointments, or going out to dinner, I check the Metro website for elevator statuses. When elevators are out of service, I need to plan alternate routes. And while I’m traveling on Metro the worry is always in the back of my mind that an elevator will break in transit and I’ll be trapped inside or outside of the system. As any commuter can imagine, I have a special passion for Metro maintenance. My nightmare Metro scenarios have come to life in missed appointments, unpredictable lateness, time-consuming reroutes, being trapped in stations and platforms, and, alternately, being excluded from entering Metro altogether.

But the most consistent teeth-grinding is incited by the behavior of my fellow Metro riders. These are the people who, though able-bodied and completely capable of using the escalators or stairs, crowd the elevators. I’ve watched a chamber full of pedestrians pack an elevator to leave me behind. I’ve had people shut elevator doors not only in my face, but against others with strollers, luggage, or canes. These riders don’t think about the affects of their additional wear on the elevators, how when the elevators break under their use I am out of transit options for months while the damage is repaired. These riders don’t think about the time I spend while they satisfy their convenience to use the elevator that I require.

Elevator abusers turn me into a person I’m not particularly fond of. This version of me charges through crowds to the front of the elevator line so that I push my priority before them. I rush to defend the needs of others in my situation, inviting the parents with strollers and elderly patrons to join me up front. I’ve found that a certain amount of aggressiveness is the vital tool I need to navigate around rude Metro riders. My voice elevates and I adopt a stern grimace. I feel humorless and grouchy.

Metro is one of the only wheelchair accessible transit systems in the world. And while I have flaws to point out and dreams of better maintenance, I’m grateful that I have Metro. What I wish is that my fellow riders would be more sensitive. I suppose it’s a combination of ignorance and selfishness that creates these frustrating elevator situations. I acknowledge that some disabilities are not visible, but I know that the majority of these elevator abusers are completely able to escalate with the best of them. And every time I ride the elevator, am trapped in a long line at the doors, or see someone jauntily step off a lift I give a glare at the thoughtlessness of their actions. For people like me, elevators are not a luxury—they are a necessity. All I ask is that Metro riders consider using the escalators so that I will have access to the elevators that I need.

Kelly Mack lives and works in Washington, DC.


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Comments (44)

I can understand being peeved at people for rushing onto the elevators and filling it up so you have to wait, and for being rude and not holding the doors for you... but for simply using them? You can't honestly expect all able-bodied people to avoid using the elevator at all times.

 

metrooooo: where do you see the writer being peeved for able-bodied people using elevators? She's peeved because able bodied riders, who could use escalators, are crowding her out of the elevators she needs to get around.

I don't doubt her story. Once I was standing on a train, as no seats were left. A blind woman boarded with her dog. Did anyone offer a seat? No. Did people know she was blind? Yes--one man PETTED HER DOG.

Shameful.

 

Omari: pardon my ignorance, but why should the other riders feel obligated to offer their seat to the blind woman? The woman couldn't see, but that doesn't mean she can't stand as easily as the rest of us.

 

Because the ADA requires that, on public transportation, certain seats be made available to seniors and people with disabilities. (49 CFR 37.167.) Nothing, I've been told my my blind colleagues, is more annoying than not being able to sit because some non-disabled rider is being a jerk.

I've commuted with the author too many times to count. She's being considerably kinder about the frequency with which this occurs than I - an able-bodied woman - would be.

(Hi, Omari! I think I went to law school with you.)

 

This reminds me of a Curb Your Enthusiasm moment -- is it bad etiquette to use a handicap stall in the restroom if all others are filled? What is the etiquette as far as exclusivity for handicap accessibility? I'd never use a handicapped facility if a suitable alternative another is available, but what if other options are unavailable?

Maybe that example doesn't fit the Metro elevator scenario, but the real fault lies with squarely with Metro. Many people use elevators in commercial office buildings on a regular basis without incident -- it's astonishing how poorly Metro performs in keeping its facilities fully operational. There's really no excuse for the quantity of outages or the delays in servicing. Extraneous use is discourteous to people who depend on the facility, but riding an escalator should not require walking on eggshells.

 

Metro just needs to install one elevator for every potential rider. A million or so elevators at each station would probably cover it. Also, full-time technician for each elevator would probably reduce downtime to zero, as long as Metro employees were deprived of all leave and made to work 24 hour shifts 7 days a week. Does that sound like a reasonable solution that would allow us to avoid being caring citizens?

 

you know what happens when I have the stroller and the elevator is filled with the able-bodied elderly or people who merely walk with canes? I wait 30 seconds for it to deposit them and come back. Ok, point made that people didn't let you get on first, but... that's not how it works, right? It's not like a seat on the bus, is it? It's like the elevator in a regular building. Look, the buttons are at your height too, it's not like a NY skyscraper where you have to ask someone to hit the high numbers.

Don

 

While I empathize with you, I think you should also consider the people who aren't "obviously" disabled. Like my friend who gets nauseous on really long escalators (like Dupont) and the elevator helps her. Or my older friend who doesn't feel stable on escalators because of arthritis in her hands and the elevators are easier to hold on to.

I think all of it is first-come, first-served. And even able-bodied people like myself have been screwed by metro!

 

1) It is shameful for an able-bodied person to not give up his seat to a blind person. Get TFU.

2) People in wheelchairs should have to wait for the elevator like everyone else. Get in line and wait the extra two minutes.

3) Abled-bodied people should feel free to use handicapped stalls (aka "handicrappers") if all of the other stalls in the bathroom are occupied. In the event of a full house, you must conduct all business in fewer than five minutes.

 

Handicap people have a resentful jealous anger against the able-bodied. No matter how much they are accomodated they will always be angry at us. I'm not saying that they souldn't be accomodated, it's just something to keep in mind.

By the way, annoyances in the crowded metro system are not exclusive to the handicapped.

 

I can't believe the selfish and insensitive comments here. It's that good-old internet anonymity at work. Kelly, I understand your commute is likely filed with roadblocks we ambulatory folks wouldn't even notice, so at the elevator I'd definitely let you get on first. The Woodley Park elevator takes about 3 minutes, round trip, and is often jammed with zoo-goers and strollers. I can imagine the others in the system each have their own frustrating situations. Thanks for the enlightening essay, and good luck to you in your travels.

 

Thank you, Ted, for some perspective here.

I'm beginning to think that the only reason someone would write an opinionist column is if they have a mean masochistic streak. Seriously, it seems like the vocal readers on dcist take opinionist as an opportunity to dump their own sh*t on those courageous enought to write something.

Kelly, I never thought much about how frustrating elevator rudeness must be to someone who has to rely on them for basic transport. Thanks for opening my eyes.

 

The argument that able bodied folks unfairly deteriorate the elevators is ridiculous. That's like me complaining that your wheelchair puts extra stress on the road underneath it because it's heavier and that leads to more potholes. We're all paying the same taxes for the same Metro system. Is the writer willing to pay more in taxes, so that I may stop paying the portion of mine that goes to elevator maintenance in exchange for not being able to use them? I'm also not grasping why you should not have to wait in line with able bodied folks at the elevator. Does your disability necessitate you getting places faster than the average person? (My hand to God, I'm not being flippant here, perhaps it does. If so, I'm happy to head to the escalator rather than use the elevator.)
For the person who sees nothing wrong with failing to offer a blind person a seat, I'd say that it's probably a heck of a lot less disorienting to be sitting on the Metro than standing if you can't see.

 

"And every time I ride the elevator, am trapped in a long line at the doors, or see someone jauntily step off a lift I give a glare at the thoughtlessness of their actions."

While I readily agree that many of the comments above are pretty awful, I still don't understand this sentance. What is wrong with taking the elevator if there is no priority passenger waiting? Is it wrong to sit in the Handicap priority seat on an empty train or bus? That seems too much to me. So while I endorse the righteous anger at someone who takes a spot on an elevator from a waiting priority passenger, I still don't see why I should endorse righteous anger at someone who doesn't take a spot away from a priority passenger.

Also, I plead ignorance on why a blind person should be granted a handicap seat. In fact a good friend of mine once got chewed out by a blind woman to whom he offered his seat, basically arguing that he was insulting her by thinking she needed the seat. While one ungrateful woman is not enough of a reason to stop offering a seat, I still don't see how their disability affects their ability to stand. Is it because they are more likely to get knocked over by people exiting or entering the train? I'll always give up a seat to a blind person, but I'm still curious whether that is totally justified.

 

Thank you, Kelly, for pointing out one of the more overlooked areas of poor rider etiquette on Metro rail. While I personally shun the elevator if there's an escalator available (to me, it's a Stairmaster), I've seen far too many people use the 'vator if there's a bottleneck on the escalators (e.g. at Metro Center during a major event), and I seldom see them make way for folks in wheelchairs, on crutches, etc.

To say the least, it's selfish and rude: if you're going to be late already, waiting a minute or two for the elevator to complete its rounds carrying its intended users isn't going to kill you.

I think that a lot of Metro users feel a sense of entitlement: "I've paid money to get into the system, so any and all facilities are mine to use." Frankly, it's a fair, if short-sighted, argument, but it fails to keep in mind the fact that there are thousands of users in the system at any given time, and the system is designed for most users to utilize the escalators for ingress and egress from the stations. Sure, a lot of the escalators on the WMATA system use crap equipment in a less-than-efficient way (another discussion, entirely), but the fact of the matter is that the majority of Metro users can (and should) use the escalators. Leave the elevators for those in true need.

Just my $0.02 - your mileage may vary.

 

It is fine and good to suggest that the general public be more polite and considerate not only in their metro use, but in general. And peices like this do help to do just that. However, effectiveness of peices like this is often low. I suggest you pettition Metro to ensure at least two elevators per station, which is reasonable. For the cost that metro has to pay in shuttles, starting to add more elevators may end up being cost effective.

Another option would be that each metro station has a regular elevator, and then a "secret elevator". The secret elevator would not really be a secret, but it would generally be offlimits. (And the above ground entrace wouldn't be prominent, thus the "secret" bit.) In times when the other one or two elevators were down, it would manned by a metro employee and only used by those who have no option of using the escalator. That way generally the elevators are free, but there is a viable backup for those truly in need. This could serious cut down on shuttle costs, and the employee slot who drove the shuttle will now be a slot for manning the elevator in these situations.

In order for all things to be fair and equal, the metro should allow equal outcomes for equal pay, not simply equal access. It is a comittment we have made in this country, to make life function for all law abiding systems in a relatively equal way. We should stick to that committment.

 

Personally, I make way for the handicapped, pregnant, etc., and offer my seat on the train or space on the elevator. Having said that, if I were handicapped and somebody took my spot on the elevator, I would speak up loudly and ask somebody to get off and let me on. I would not sit passively by and stew about this stuff...even if I had to shove my wheelchair in the door. I don't believe that it's right for a handicapped person to have to wait for the next elevator. They absolutely deserve a break. How can this even be debatable?

It is very unfortunate that some people have no empathy for others. The world is harsh enough without us personally making it more so.

 

I have no idea what it's like to be in a wheelchair and compelled to make all of these extra accomodations, planning, etc., to get around that.

However, I have to think that making aggressive "look at me" announcements to lines of people, and/or glaring at completely innocent people who happened to use the elevator before you, is not a helpful, graceful, polite, or effective means of dealing with the situation.

"I rush to defend the needs of others in my situation, "... are these people really in need of your visible and public crusading? Or are you doing it for some other reason?

If I spend 4 extra hours at the station, hauling hose packs and tools up and down stairs, dragging people down hallways, lifting stretchers "with the legs people," and I decide to use the Metro elevator on the way up, and I get a glare or lecture from you, I'm going to reciprocate in kind, and/or we'll both come away angry. (feel free to replace my situation with that of shepherding a tired, hot, family through the zoo, being lost and unfamiliar with a city where you don't even know that people don't usually use the elevator, etc.)

Alternately, though it can be truly difficult, we could both try and exercise a little grace in the situation - though it's far and away the most tempting option, fighting fire with fire does not work w/r/t lack of empathy and general jerkdom. It just sets more things on fire. (and hey, maybe you have done, and you're "out". In which case I sympathize, but you've got to get back in that game.)

I'm not going to take up space in an elevator from some lady in a wheelchair who has already probably dealt with enough Metro BS today. Similarly, I wouldn't expect anyone to subject me to a shaming little piece of street theater because they're in a line for the elevator...

Folks in a wheelchair waiting,a nd folks without a wheel chair waiting - you don't know what the situation is of everyone else in line. You just don't, so you have to refer to general principles. I have found truly and throughout my life that courtesy begets courtesy, and the way through any situation that doesn't involve you turning into someone you (and everyone else) wouldn't like or want to meet today is the most efficient way.

 

As someone else pointed out earlier, just because someone appears to be able-bodied does not mean that they are. Someone returning from, say chemo, might appear "able-bodied" but believe me, they are not. Snap judgements help no one.

 

seems like it all comes down to one thing:

people who can't use the escalators-- do they have priority ahead of people who CAN use the escalators to get on a metro elevator, or not? i.e. the argument that the line is a line, and nobody waiting for the elevator deserves special accomodation, cause everybody will get to ride it in the end. or the alternative that the elevator is more "for" those unable to use the escalators, and so they should ride first. I dunno.

if I'm feeling lazy, damn right I go for the elevator. usually there's nobody else waiting to get on. but if there were, and the choice were between me taking that elevator or a wheelchair/elderly/blind/whatever, I'd yield my spot. some people aren't as nice.

 

Okay I'd like to point a few things out here as somone who is in a wheelchair. While a agree with the frustration in this post and I can't tell you how many times I've been screwd out of an elevator. First of all metro isn't the only way a person in a wheelchair can get around. I can drive just like everyone else with hand controls in my car. And to spite what a lot of wheelchair users will tell you it IS POSSIBLE to use an escalator in a wheelchair rol the back of the chair on first and hold the hand rails so you don't tip, provided you have the upper body strength to hold up yourself and the chair. While I don't mind at all being in a wheelchair i feel that the general public dosn't understand how frustrating it can be at times. Litle things take hours that would take anyone else 30 seconds. I'm not complainng but I do ask that you think and that you try spending 24/7 in a wheelchair before you say that we are whining about it.

 

I take my bike on metro and as such you basically have to follow the same circuitous path that those in wheelchairs have to take. Find the outside elevator and ride that down to the mezz level, go through the turnstiles and then another elevator ride down to the train. It takes forever, so I can sympathize with Kelly's situation.

I don't say anything when the elevator is filled with able-bodied lazies and I have to wait for another, but when I see people fill the elevator and leave someone in a wheelchair or with a stroller, I put my hand in the door and tell them that they need to get off. Why? Because they can use the escalator and others can not. There's even an announcement before the elevator starts that says something to the effect of "Please give priorotity to those in need." You, who are simply too lazy to ride up moving stairs, are not in need.

Paul - "People in wheelchairs should have to wait for the elevator like everyone else. Get in line and wait the extra two minutes."

Really, are you kidding me???? If people in wheelchairs could use metro "like everyone else" then I'd agree. But they can't. Try moving around Metro in an wheelchair for one day and then tell me if you feel the same way you heartless and inconsiderate robot.

tigerfancutie - "Is the writer willing to pay more in taxes, so that I may stop paying the portion of mine that goes to elevator maintenance in exchange for not being able to use them?"

Are you willing to pay more in taxes so that Kelly may stop paying the portion of hers that goes to ESCALATOR maintenance in exchange for not being able to use them?

Really, there's a whole circle in Hell for people who leave someone in a wheelchair waiting for an elevator when an escalator is steps away.

 

I do not doubt someone's strength if they feel comfortable holding onto their wheel chair on the escalator, but that sound terrifyingly dangerous. Not just for the individual in the chair, but for anyone below them, especially if there are children below them. If people can get scarves caught in metro escalators and die, then I am sure even strong wheelchair users can accidentally lose their grip. I still propose a system sponsored solution so that people do not resort to potentially dangerous bahaviour such as that and is not the extreme inconvenience of shuttles.

 

the elevators weren't put in for able bodied people who had a bad day or for strollers - they were put in for people who can't stand - so if you have horrible arthritis, vertigo or are in a chair they of course you should use the elevators with Kelly - but what she is opinionating on aren't those people

if a person can stand in an elevator they can stand on an escalator - people in wheelchairs can't stand on an escalator

and why is someone who had chemo doing taking metor home? i pick up my neighbor in a car and drive her home so she doesn't have to deal with cabs or strangers


she aslo mentioned she doesn't want to be a raving bitch - but when she is already going to be late or have to take an alternative route because of an elevator down issue - should she really have to kow tow to ignorant self absorbed tourists who think folding up a stroller on metro and carrying their tot in their arms is not an option - it isn't disney land.

and for the person in a chair who think that wheelchairs belong on the escalator are you shit house crazy? not every one in a chair has full use of their arms and if you loose your grip for whatever reason do you think the people beneath you want a 300lb chair falling on them?

i use the elevators when i have a bad day or when they are there - but i will think differently from now on - until metro can get their act together and have regularly running elevators or two in each station i will stand on the escalator

 

the elevators weren't put in for able bodied people who had a bad day or for strollers - they were put in for people who can't stand - so if you have horrible arthritis, vertigo or are in a chair they of course you should use the elevators with Kelly - but what she is opinionating on aren't those people

if a person can stand in an elevator they can stand on an escalator - people in wheelchairs can't stand on an escalator

and why is someone who had chemo doing taking metor home? i pick up my neighbor in a car and drive her home so she doesn't have to deal with cabs or strangers


she aslo mentioned she doesn't want to be a raving bitch - but when she is already going to be late or have to take an alternative route because of an elevator down issue - should she really have to kow tow to ignorant self absorbed tourists who think folding up a stroller on metro and carrying their tot in their arms is not an option - it isn't disney land.

and for the person in a chair who think that wheelchairs belong on the escalator are you shit house crazy? not every one in a chair has full use of their arms and if you loose your grip for whatever reason do you think the people beneath you want a 300lb chair falling on them?

i use the elevators when i have a bad day or when they are there - but i will think differently from now on - until metro can get their act together and have regularly running elevators or two in each station i will stand on the escalator

 

washcycle - when I am being an able bodied lazy and am planning on taking the elevator and I see you with you bike I take the escalator.

thank you for being the uber commuter and not wasting fossil fuels

 

You'll never convince tourists that this isn't Disneyland, but signs may help. Even if they don't, they have the potential to be funny.

 

Actually, the sign idea is not a bad one.

I love signs when the purpose is to have some neutral third party authoritatively say something that would be awkward for someone to do for themselves in person...I know they already make an announcement, have some signage, but maybe something entirely plan English like:

"Be the nice one. Leave room for those in wheelchairs, with strollers, or bikes - in that order."

As for riding the escalator backwards by clutching the handrail - damn, dude. You're a braver person than I. But aren't you worried you're going to at some point cash in the people below you on something like the Dupont Circle escalator? (like, say, a spider lands on your arm or some jerk bumps into you running down on their way to a meeting?)

Finally, as for folding up a stroller and carrying the tot in their arms not being an option, and being called ignorant and self-absorbed if you don't do so, well...have kids first, then throw stones.

 

I frequently push around a tandem stroller so I have come to fully realize the barriers for wheelchair users on Metro. When I had a single stroller, I mostly used the escalator - possible if you're careful. But with twins in a tandem, ya just cannot use the escalator.
But with stroller or without, I do let a wheelchair person on first, even tho most elevators don't have room for both of us.

Metro copped out - due to high costs - with system elevators. Each station on the system (except the ones that rely totally on elevators, like Forest Glen) only has ONE street elevator, and it's quite small! And they're frequently filthy.

And a reminder: some stations have escalators that are out of service for days or even weeks. One escalator at Metro Center was out of service for many months! That's why many able-bodied pleople use the escalators.

That said, I always give up my aisle seat on the Metro to an elderly person or handicapped - IF they're nearby. Pregnant women, only if noticable pregnant. There are plenty of fat women who look 5-6 months pregnant. Let 'em stand.
I've also had people turn me down for the empty seat, some of them not very gratefully, and sometimes I rethink if I want to make that offer to a stranger again.

On the other hand, 2 instances here:
First, a fit looking woman, pulling along a small cart, who looked about 60 got on our crowded car and barked "At the next stop I'm going to ask somebody to get up and give me their seat." People looked up, a bit embarrassed and a man sheepishly got up and she took the seat and looked very smug about the whole thing.

Second, a young blind woman got on with her dog and immediately hollered "I need a seat!" There was an empty seat next to me so I said "There's one right here, just to your left" but I felt guilty, as if I was trying to hide the seat from a handicapped person, even tho I wasn't. She sat down & within a couple minutes, her large guide dog started getting out of control. There was a woman standing next to the dog holding a sealed cup of coffee, and the dog started nosing her crotch & starting to jump up a little. The woman said "Miss, your DOG!" The blind woman had to calm down her dog.

Attention handicappers: if you bring a guide dog onto the Metro, then PLEASE LEARN TO CONTROL YOUR DOG!!!!

 

as for have a kid and then throw a stone

why don't you ride in a chair for one day and deal with sidwalks you can't walk down and have to back track to a ramp; cars that block ramps; no option to even walk up a flight of stairs when broken; having to go 3 miles out of your way and then wait for a shuttle bus to get home after a hard day of work; telling people to move off ramps because they aren't paying attention to others around them; only crossing the street with the light because you can't jay walk and then tell me how hard it is deal with a stroller

 

its utterly incomprehensible to me that some of you don't, or need "justification" to give a handicapped person your seat? are you fucking barbarians? did you have abusive parents with no morality? just plain assholes?

people damn.

being polite is its own justification. try to give a damn.

give up your seat to old people, handicapped people, moms with kids, nurses, firemen.

men, give up your seats to women.

does it really need to be said?

all y'alls entitled whiney asses could use a bit o standing up hardship.

 

There are some harsh comments here, but let me say one thing. Accessibility concerns are based on providing the capability for handicapped persons to do the daily things that we take for granted, ie get around town, commute, etc. Having handicapped seats on metro cars allows people who can't stand to be able to ride the trains. Sitting in those seats takes away their ability to do that. Standing in line at an elevator does not take away anyone's ability to access the metrorail system - it can cause a time delay. While this is an inconvenience, I don't think you can hold the same standard to people to give up their spots. Many would, because they are polite and realize that some people have it harder than they do, but I don't think it should be a moral obligation. A line is a line, and whether thats at metro, at the grocery store, at mcdonald's, etc., I don't see a moral differentiation.

I think there is some underlying sentiment that since we all pay for the myriad of accessibility features that are required (sometimes) to be built into public transportation, office buildings, and so on, we are all entitled to use them. Fair use is up to the policymakers who govern our cities and states, but when no explicit guidance is posted it's a matter of courtesey, not of obligation. If there is in fact a message on the elevators (I never take the elevator) saying to give priority to disabled persons, then I may disagree with the policy but would be compelled to obey, and it happens to be the courteous thing as well.

 

When I noticed someone who I thought needed my seat on the bus, I got up out of my seat. If they took it, fine, if they didn't I might sit down again. I wasn't doing someone a favor, I was doing the right thing.

As far as people mocking strollers. You were a child once yourself. period.

I take a stroller to woodley park and cleveland park metros and it's about a 30 second trip on the escalator- NOT 3 minutes. It's just not 3 minutes. I'm not saying life shouldn't be more fair, but I certainly haven't seen able-bodied people in the elevators before.

Don

 

I don't mind strollers per se, but there are clearly a class of "stroller people" who are utterly self-absorbed. They give all strollers a bad name; and they are one of the big reasons that I hate going to malls.

 

A line is a line, and whether thats at metro, at the grocery store, at mcdonald's, etc., I don't see a moral differentiation.

That assumes that people always stand in line at a Metro elevator. They don't. And when they don't, common courtesy almost always goes out the window. I swear, those Metro elevator riders are cutthroat. I realize that COPD, RA and the like aren't visible and will give most elevator riders the benefit of the doubt. However, when the elevator folks rush on like a pack full of rabid hyenas and leave the wheelchair or stroller people behind, well, I question their manners first and their disability second. I see it every single day at Federal Triangle, as I am walking to the escalators.

 

anassa kata, Kelly, and thanks for writing this. We attended the same college and watching the school adjust to accomodate you raised my consciousness about disability issues. Moving from Chicago where the trains are nearly completely inaccessible, I can really appreciate how the Metro helps make DC a more inclusive place to live.


One subtler point that I heard you making that is worth repeating is about the cultural effect of having able-bodied people feel that it's OK or their right to take the elevators. As has been discussed here many times, the DC Metro has a strong culture, most visibly in its escalator standing etiquette. We on DCist generally have very, very harsh words for people who flout our little unwritten rule, however innocently. I read this post as trying to create a similarly strong cultural habit discouraging elevator use except when truly necessary, and I support that and throw my weight behind it as a currently able-bodied person.


I find the arguments about invisible disabilities like chemo recovery or vertigo disingenuous. How many ppl making such arguments are speaking from a position of knowledge of such conditions, and how many are using the existence of such conditions as a defense for their own laziness? Undoubtedly there are some "normal"-looking elevator riders who have some impairment. But I will bet a transhare card or three that that demographic is FAR outnumbered by able-bodied people who consider it their right as taxpayers (or whatever) to ride a Metro elevator if they feel like it. Kelly argues that this use causes her harm because it's against the design of the elevators (causing them to break more frequently). That has the ring of truth to me, they sure do not seem designed for heavy traffic but for occasional use. Does anyone know for sure, though?


One specific response. TigerFanCutie, you asked "Does your disability necessitate you getting places faster than the average person?" Are YOU blind, perhaps? A disability like Kelly's IMPAIRS her getting places in the same time-frame as the average person, and often getting places at all, and that's before she even GETS to the Metro. Yes. Her disability "necessitates" that you give her precedence to the elevators, because if you do not she is not equal to you in her ability to do things like get to work on time. Does it have the force of law? Who cares: what would YOU want if YOU were in a wheelchair?

 

Techne, I am not blind, but thank you for inquiring about my condition. My overall concern here is when people start divvying up public services into "yours" and "mine." For the record, I don't take the elevators. I walk up the escalators to get exercise. So I am rankled when someone in a wheelchair suggests that I am worthy of scorn on the one or two days per month that they may see me taking the elevator because I was late for work and the elevator happened to arrive as I was walking by, or the morning after I injured my foot on my evening run. You of course make an excellent point about the moment that Kelly is at the elevator being only one part of a much larger and no doubt more annoying commute from home to wherever. I'm happy to concede that point in hindsight. Thank you for making it so respectfully.

 

Techne, I am not blind, but thank you for inquiring about my condition. My overall concern here is when people start divvying up public services into "yours" and "mine." For the record, I don't take the elevators. I walk up the escalators to get exercise. So I am rankled when someone in a wheelchair suggests that I am worthy of scorn on the one or two days per month that they may see me taking the elevator because I was late for work and the elevator happened to arrive as I was walking by, or the morning after I injured my foot on my evening run. You of course make an excellent point about the moment that Kelly is at the elevator being only one part of a much larger and no doubt more annoying commute from home to wherever. I'm happy to concede that point in hindsight. Thank you for making it so respectfully.

 

I still have yet to be convinced that using the elevator is somehow harmful to people in wheelchairs. No one has pointed to anything saying that more frequent use is more harmful than infrequent use. Even speaking on a basic level: wouldn't the fact that someone rode the elevator down indicate that there's a chance that your wait is shorter because now you don't have to wait for the elevator to ride all the way down? At the very least, you were going to call it down, how is it worse that someone got a ride?

Like tigerfancutie, I never ride the elevator, but I don't like seeing a city service paid for all to be claimed only for those who need it the most. Priority, yes. Exclusivity, not until I see some stats supporting it.

 

I am at a loss. My disability necessitates my using a cane in my right hand so I must stand left on escalators which is a no-no. I'm not (yet) in a chair so the elevators are off-limits. No matter which I choose I will potentially piss someone off all because I want to get around like everyone else does.

 

Ray, relax. No one has suggested that the elevators are off limits for you. If you can't use the escalator without blocking it for others, obviously you should use the elevator.

 

The elevators have signs in them reminding passengers that they are for those with disabilities and/or strollers.

I recently sprained my ankle and had to deal with the Metro on crutches. I couldn't ride the escalators because I couldn't fit, with my crutches, on the step comfortably. I would inevitably be nudged by someone walking quickly up the escalator. That made my ankle hurt incredibly more so I decided that I had the right to use the elevator.

On one of my first days on crutches, the elevator filled up with almost all able-bodied people. There may have been that one person with vertigo or that one person coming home from chemo, but for the most part, they were all perfectly healthy, able-bodied people who weren't going to be further injured if they rode the escalator. I was so angry that people would seriously look at me on crutches and hit the "close door" button without a second thought.

I cannot understand why people feel the need to use an elevator when they are perfectly able to use the escalator; if they want to do so, fine--be lazy. But to get into an elevator at the expense of someone who cannot use the escalator? That's beyond rude. That's inhuman.

 

I can not believe some of these comments. I might have been the blind person you were talking about-- I'm not sure. This has happened to me to many times to count, with people refusing to give me their seats. Do they strictly need to? No, but I would really appreciate it if they did. If you think you don't need to give me your seat, I suggest you try holding on to the pole with one hand, a guide dog with the other, a pocket book, and a backpack. How would you enjoy attempting to keep your balance?
That being said, if it were a choice between giving me a seat, or giving a pregnant woman a seat, I would prefer you to give her the seat. While I am capable of standing, it is difficult for me to balance all of these things, and especially now that I have a new guide dog who is in training.
Now I would like to addres the poster who made that generalization about those of us with disabilities being angry at the able bodied population and wanting more and more accomidation. I am absolutely disgusted by this statement, and in my case it is completely untrue. The vast majority of my friends are completely able bodied, and I do not ask for unreasonable accomidations. I am not angry or resentful of the able bodied population, and I find your assumption that I am ridiculous. Granted, many disabled people do view the world in those terms, but there are many of us who do not, and who want reasonable accomidations that will allow us to be on the same footing as our able bodied peers. I can not believe that someone would have the nerve to make that kind of blankit generalization about a group of people. Please refrain from doing this, because your statement is absolutely untrue and pisses me off.
For your information, I am pre-law, and I plan to go to law school with my able bodied peers and become a succesful lawyer. I will not be resentful of my able bodied friends, in fact, most of my mentors and role models are able bodied. And, if you see me on the metro, please get your ass up and let me sit down! Thanks.

 

To the woman who directed the blind woman to the seat... For the record, that wasn't my dog who caused such disruption. I don't think that your asking that handlers have control of their guide dogs is an unreasonable expectation. I believe that the blind woman hollering,"I need a seat," was rude and inconsiderit. When I get on a train I will say, "Excuse me, could you direct me to a seat?" and am polite enough to thank the person who does this. Thanks for considering other people's needs.

 
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