June 16, 2006
Post Details Plight of Interns
"Underpaid and Barely Housed," screams the headline. Is it landless workers in Brazil? Sweatshop employees in Burma? Well, no. Not really. It's interns in Washington.
Today the Post details the plight of the thousands of interns that flock to the District on an annual basis, working jobs that don't pay them (or pay them very little, if they're lucky) and struggling to find housing that is -- gasp! -- affordable. While the article doesn't really tread new ground -- it could easily be run each year as is, with some details altered to account for time passed -- the picture standing alongside it really tugs at the heart-strings, doesn't it?
An intern stands frustrated and crest-fallen, obviously grasping the reality of intern life in Washington. "Why me?", she seems to ask. We have to give it to Post photographer Michael Robinson Chavez -- he really captured the emotion of the moment. We collectively want to hug this anonymous intern and let her know that it'll be alright.
Yes, Post legal counsel, we realize we're using an image from your site. But since we're commenting on it, we're guessing it falls under the rubric of "Fair Use."
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that picture is what got me to read the article when i saw it on their site...
"And her budget, once a firm $1,000 a month to accommodate her $3,000 a month gross salary, kept getting higher"
A lot of people don't make that at full time jobs, I didn't have much sympathy for these kids.
Is it me or does that room not look so bad? I don't see any cockroaches, the walls don't seem cracked, and the sunlight coming through the window suggests that she doesn't live in a place bad enough the the windows are covered with bars and chicken wire.
The Post should have saved that picture for a story on migraine headaches. Or maybe snoopy room mates.
Unpaid internships should be illegal.
Bitching about it after accepting an unpaid internship should be illegal.
I agree, casey--$3000/month?! For an internship?! Where do I sign up for that deal? By my math, that comes out to about $17/hour! (31 days X 5/7 work days * 8 hours/day.)
I just finished a year of med school, and I *still* can't make that much when I'm looking for summer work.
What, me, bitter?
Depending on what they told that girl beforehand, the placement service that put her in a 7x10 bedroom for $1,250 may need a swift kick in the ass from the appropriate authorities. That sounds mad shady.
With rental prices like those, however will they afford buckets of Miller Light bottles? The horror!
And $3,000 a month is more than I made when I worked in DC.
Unpaid internships are a not small part of why we've got the people in power we do. How many of you could afford to go take an unpaid summer in an expensive city during college? A pretty small minority of us, I'd imagine. And for all of the shit jobs these internships involve, they're a formidable first step in building a web of friends and professional relationships that will put you into the halls of power (in government, journalism, etc.).
So yeah, I'm with politburo.
The phrase "gross salary" should probably tip you numbskulls off. She is more than likely paying for most of it through student loans which she will have to pay back, and is not getting $3000 a month in paid income.
I have no sympathy for these kids. I'm a graduate student and make way less than those kids profiled and somehow I was able to find a place to live that, while pricey, is not too expensive.
Unpaid internships like that seem only for the priviledged. Omg, they don't get to live in the luxury they are used to. Boo hoo.
It's sad though that only those people who can afford to not be paid are those who will go on to be in charge of the rest of us.
So....the arguement for making unpaid internships illegal, is not that it's in-humane to those that take them, but more so for those who can ill-afford to take them, creating an unjust, unfair advantage for those in a higher income class, over those who are just as worthy but do not make enough.
Interesting....I buy that. Convinced me.
I loved the line about lowered expectations. The girl was looking for a "cute one-bedroom" in Dupont but then said she'd be willing to accept something less.
And the comment about a place advertized a close to Dupont that turns out to be a twenty minute walk up a steep hill. Am I wrong or are they talking about Kalorama? Hell, I was an intern and I'd have taken an air matress in Kalorama any day of the week.
Plus it's perfectly understandable that landlords are reluctant to offer these very short leases. Especially as these interns are only willing to commit to a three months lease. The landlord is just going to have to go throught the whole process again in three months time and possibly lose a months rent if he/she cannot fill it right away.
I loved the line about lowered expectations. The girl was looking for a "cute one-bedroom" in Dupont but then said she'd be willing to accept something less.
And the comment about a place advertized a close to Dupont that turns out to be a twenty minute walk up a steep hill. Am I wrong or are they talking about Kalorama? Hell, I was an intern and I'd have taken an air matress in Kalorama any day of the week.
Plus it's perfectly understandable that landlords are only willing to commit to a three months lease. The landlord is just going to have to go throught the whole process again in three months time and possibly lose a months rent if he/she cannot fill it right away.
Well dumbass, if they had meant student loans, they probably wouldn't have used the word "salary," which means compensation for sevices provided. By "gross salary" they probably mean before taxes, which are not insubstantial on what would be an annual income of $36,000.
If someone can't find a place to live in DC for under $1000 a month, they ar either a spoiled brat or too dumb to work there.
Muffy looks so unhappywappy. Good thing Madhatter takes visa!
Sometimes I hate the Post.
If you are going to make unpaid internships illegal, how about doing the same for college teaching assistants?
Really, where do people get off taking an un(der)paid job and then bitching about it? Kinda like moving to the ghetto and then complaining that your neighbors don't use the queen's english, yes?
"With rental prices like those, however will they afford buckets of Miller Light bottles?"
Ohio stranded, experiece taught me that they afford to drink by NOT TIPPING.
I tended bar in Georgetown for years and we always DREADED intern season. Cheap, arrogant little bastards (sorry for the gross generalization). I can't tell you how many times I got things like "Hi, I'd like to start a tab. I don't need to put down a credit card, I'm in town doing some work for Senator XXXX for the summer. What is your cheapest beer?"
NIGHTMARE. I'm laughing at myself for still being bitter about it all these years later.
Matt starts us off right with a somewhat sexual comment, but so far, no "I've got [blank] I do to her" comment. I'm proud of us. Props on people bringing up roommate creepery as well.
I'm also with Politburo. Let's also not forget that a lot of the reason these kids get their internships in the first place is as political favors to rich campaign donors/parents.
This article frustrated me because it's not just the interns. The entry-level employees and even those of us that have been in the workforce for a few years deal with this too. It's outrageously expensive to live here no matter who you are.
I don't really pity the interns all that much. I do pity their naivete a little, but when you decide to take an internship in a city (unpaid or not), you need to do your research, find out what you can afford, and determine if it's actually a viable option. I spent at least one summer back home during college because I couldn't afford housing in the city I had a (paid) internship in.
It may also be interesting to consider what these folks deem acceptable. A really nice one bedroom washer/dryer secure pet-allowing parking-included good-location unit where I went to school (well-known popular large city but not as "big" as DC) was less than $600. As mentioned, these folks have unrealistic expecations coming into this situation. Which, again, do your research.
(I will admit that cragislist can be just as bad as indicated. Stuff is never as good as it seems, which does make it harder.)
If anything, this pity party makes me hate them a little bit more when they're being too obnoxious with their cigarettes and margaritas and "I own this town" vibe. Sorry, I sat next to a slew of them last night at dinner and it was not a pleasant experience.
I went to a nice college and then I spent my summers babysitting and working in a grocery store-- because I had to contribute for college. Sure, my politics major could have benefitted from an internship down here, but my work ethic benefitted more.
Guess what? I still got a job after graduation.
Interns are the worst. When I stayed in the dorms over the summer one year I can't tell you how many times I would meet these kids who wanted me to be impressed by their internships. It is easy to deflate them a bit when you tell them that they aren't doing anything we didn't all do during the school year. Making copies doesn't make you special. I thought the article was pretty hilarious. The girl who wanted the "cute one bedroom" in Dupont is my favorite part. What reality is she from?
They should have a mandatory class, where they go to the Day Labor center in Herndon, and have illegal immigrants give lectures on how to live on the cheap.
Of course when I moved to Dupont I could afford it on a bike courier salary, and next door to me was a group house of Clinton (1st term) staffers. Oh, and ice cream was a quarter, too.
Being generous, maybe there's some institutional memory?
Also being generous, maybe the 20 min walk up hill puts her in the Dorchester or somewhere like that.
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Am I an idiot or is this totally wrong? When I lived in the GU dorms in summer of 1999 they were around $800 per month per person, not $200. Do they mean per WEEK? Oh, Post.
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Am I an idiot or is this totally wrong? When I lived in the GU dorms in summer of 1999 they were around $800 per month per person, not $200. Do they mean per WEEK? Oh, Post.
This string is hilarious and for the most part the posts are right on. Unpaid internships are a gift to the elite. Yup. Post sucks. Yup. Interns are incredibly annoying. Yup. Does that little girl's $3000 a month come with or without the deposits from Daddy. Give me a break.
I actually know the girl in the picture, I had dinner with her on her second night here in DC. Some further explanation on the picture...
Her exhausted look was compunded by the fact her belongings were shipped to another address. Originally WISH told her she would be living in one apartment, so her boxes were shipped there. Upon arrival, she was given a different address.
The A/C did not work in her place either. It has since been fixed.
It is also a bit exhausting having the Post follow you around for a couple of days when you first arrive in a new city.
The interns lift our balls and scrape out the cheese for a summer while we gauge their rich parents for absurd rent money...what's not to like about that? It's the only way a dirty old man like me can get a niece piece of nubile ass without paying for it.
The answer to any unpaid intern's cash shortages is painfully simple. Weren't any of you paying attention when we found out that Wonkette was getting paid a lot of money by the Senator she interned for, for anal sex? And after the gig on the Hill is over, you work on a book about it--mostly the anal sex part--in between speaking engagements.
Many students working at unpaid internships are getting school credit for it. It's not hard to arrange through your college. Unpaid internships are not just for the elite--you pay whatever you would be paying in tuition to your school anyway. The only difference would be in the cost of living in DC versus where you would be living otherwise.
Also, I don't see any of these interns mention getting part time jobs. It's not uncommon for full time students to have part time jobs. DC is expensive for everyone living here, and we all make compromises by choosing how to spend whatever money we have, whether it is where we live, what kind of job we work at, and how much we spend on entertainment.
That's the Washingtonienne, Rex, not Wonkette.
"The phrase "gross salary" should probably tip you numbskulls off. She is more than likely paying for most of it through student loans which she will have to pay back, and is not getting $3000 a month in paid income."
Gross salary means what it says. It's extrapolated out to $36k a year before taxes. Doesn't change my comment at all. And if she's paying for housing with student loans, then it's pretty easy to cover other expenses in DC on $3k a month.
Dumbasses indeed, person featured in the article writing under a pseudonym.
When I interned summer 2002, I paid GW $300 per week for a shoddy dorm apartment. When I arrived, they gave me a key and I walked into a room already occupied by a woman, who *clearly* did not know I would be arriving (twin beds pushed together with sheets over the top, empty vodka bottles strewn around -- welcome!). I managed to talk my way into an empty 1-bedroom unit, and I lucked out that they never assigned anyone to move in with me -- it was normally a triple! I was only in town for 5 weeks, so didn't feel I had many options; I had a summer fellowship from my college, but half of it went to GW. So I do sympathize a bit with the interns, as annoying as they are... but when they're aiming for the "cute 1-bedroom in Dupont," they are clearly still living in their college bubble.
Contrary to popular opinion, getting a Hill internship is ridiculously easy if you're willinng to do it during a semester and put some actual work in. Summer internships are jokes, especially because the city is dead during August. I got one and I wasn't a spoiled brat or even from the member's state. All it took was a resume and a good interview.
But on interns, many of us have been there and know that their hopes and dreams are rapidly quashed about a month into the job when they realize that its scut work. By the time August rolls around they hate it and most have been pumped and dumped by low level staffers and lobbyists out for a sport fuck. It's the circle of DC life. So don't get mad at them, just pity them instead.
I too found it curious that the Post didn't mention the fact that many interns here are only able to be interns because of subsidies from their parents. I went to a very large public university, and of my close friends, none of us ever interned in DC or NYC because our parents simply weren't able/willing to pay for us to work for free in a strange and expensive city.
The people I know who did intern in DC for the summer were people who are very wealthy. Sure there are grants and so forth available, but how are poor, inner-city kids with no connections supposed to get a leg up?
I feel for unpaid interns for many of the same reasons cited above. When has the notion of an honest day's pay for an honest day's work exempted any class of people--student, day laborer, teacher, or another? We need to push employers--industry, government, nonprofit--to make the change so that we can all benefit from the smarts, skills, and go-get 'em attitude of *any* young person who wants to work in DC, privileged, poor, or in between. Our teeny tiny nonprofit just instituted a stipend for interns. It's not enough, but it's a start.
what is this $3000/mo BS?
i don't make anywhere near that with my real full time job... and i have a 4 year degree from georgetown.
*sigh*
Also, what about subletting in Silver Spring/Crystal City/Ballston/Takoma Park/etc? There's a crazy contraption called the Metro which will take you to your job on the Hill, and to that shitty bar you love on M Street. I loved how such a big deal was made of her looking "as far out as College Park".
Jesus tapdancing Christ these people suck.
I took an upaid intership with a senator and the U.S. Secret Service during two summers. Although I had to work as a waiter at night and weekends I loved what I got to exp. and learn at each place. Not everyone can do unpaid internships but no one should say they should be illegal. I, along with thousands college age kids, made a free will choice. Anyone who complains about an unpaid intership after taking it should be kicked in the butt. You know how much hard work it will be without getting pay. Its the exp. you get that makes it worth it. I know I got a university scholarship because of my U.S. Secret Service intership (the woman in charge told me that was the deciding factor). Interships pay in the long run even if you get no monetary reward.
I gotta agree with most of the sentiment here. Interns drive up rent, fill up all the good restaurants/bars with their lame kickball teams, and keep wages down for entry level positions in this city.
ms -- I invite you to read the comments again. It is more than just a free will decision affecting only that individual. Why hire someone at minimum when you can exploit some college kids?
"By the time August rolls around they hate it and most have been pumped and dumped by low level staffers and lobbyists out for a sport fuck."
You are my new hero. I will pay your bail.
Add this to the pile of perennial favorites the Post seems to recycle regularly: the "building a living downtown" chestnut comes to mind, along with the life-affirming-tale-of-triumph-in-the-face-of-adversity, complete with former drug runners turned lay ministers and teen mother of 4 working towards her GED.
As for interns, I wouldn't pee in their face if their head was on fire. I don't care who you work for or how much your daddy makes, learn to tip, dumbass.
Yep, the consensus here is right...unpiad internships are a gift to upscale kiddies. In economics we call this an "implicit barrier to entry" in a market...in this case the DC politics/policy job market. You don't get in without an internship record (for the most part), but unless Mommy & Daddy are writing you checks, you can't afford the internship.
I got into a fight with Tom Lenhart of CRS on this subject at GW career day,. He kept pumping internships as being crucial. I asked him whether it showed more character to manage a FT class load while doing a full time job to pay for living/school costs. We went back anbd forth, with me asking "...and how doesn't that require money from home." to his points. He finally got pissed and stormed out. Never could answer the question.
GIVE ME A BREAK.
First of all, I bet most of the DC interns who can afford to live within the city lines have more than a little bit of help from mommy and daddy when it comes to paying rent. How else can they afford to work an unpaid internship for 4 months?
Secondly, these kids are asking for way too much. That, and they don't know how to look. Being an intern myself, though I go to school in DC, I've been looking for places to live on craigslist since March, and even then it was tough. However, since I was on a budget, I was looking at sublets around $650/month. And yes, I found some. They may have been in "up-and-coming" neighborhoods, or way out in College Park, but they exist.
Being close to Metro stations shouldn't matter, just take the freaking bus everywhere. You'll save a lot of money that way! Not everyone needs a commume under 30 minutes...there are plenty of people who take the MARC to DC from Frederick. Interns just as easily can take bus/rail from Greenbelt/College park to downtown.
I can't believe nobody has brought up the growing problem of illegal aliens coming into this country, filling these unpaid internship positions that were at one time filled by college students.
Thank you CT and ms for the "get a paying job" angle. When I moved here I worked full-time and had part-time evening and weekend jobs for two years before I was finally able to stop living paycheck to paycheck. Or I stayed late at work to get overtime (yes, I was actually working those hours). You do what you have to do to make it work.
I'll excuse it a little bit in the younger students, but people that are 23, 25, and 28 like in this article are old enough to be informed and responsible. They should know better than to come into this situation and then have the gall to start complaining about it. As mentioned, get another job to make ends meet if you have to, it's what the rest of us do/did.
"learn to tip, dumbass" Monkeyrotica, I think I love you.
And CT is right. If you want to live at all comfortably as an intern, get a second job. I worked my ass off at two jobs for quite a few years after college. But I wanted to be able to live a certain way and I knew that if I didn't work for it, it wouldn't happen.
I blame St. Elmo's Fire for these kids' perception of post-college life in DC. Remember Mare Winningham's apartment (on a social worker's salary, no less) was this HUGE loft? And didn't Ally Sheedy and Judd Nelson live in Georgetown with a view of the Potomac? Um, where does that apartment even exist? Let alone at a rate affordable to recent college grads. But, I digress.
Wow that's a little ridiculous... I have a "paid" internship in silver Spring and I get about $480/month from the company, and also Metro cards and such when I need them.
Yeah I get money from my parents each month, but not much.... no more than I was getting while school was in session. Not sure what's going to happen when I am out of my student loan money. Maybe I'll get a job waiting tables. Most people I know have that second job in the evenings for more income.
Anyone who thinks it inconvinient to go from "as far away as College Park" to downtown DC really ought to get a clue. I manage to make it from College Park to Silver Spring via Metro each day. What's more, my friend goes from College Park to the pentagon each day. Sure you need to get up a little earlier, but hey, welcome to real life.
It is pretty sickening to see people who are older than I am to be more clueless about how to go about living in and around DC. I should teach a class to these kids about how to live. Maybe their parents would pay me to teach them. Either that or I can rent out a closet for them to live in and charge like $600/month. Hey that's like half the price of those downtown places, and only a short Metro ride away!
I was going to comment that I hate these kids, but then I read the article and realized that several of the "kids" profiled are older than me! Why are you still taking an unpaid internship at 28?
I had internships in college, but they were paid, and as a result they weren't in the field I hoped to eventually work in. I was able to stay in DC for the summer by working 3 jobs (85 hours a week) and renting a 1 bedroom apartment with 3 other girls. One summer the only day I had off was the 4th of July. I used to be really bitter about those kids that took the interesting unpaid jobs, but then I realized they are suckers who graduated with a rolodex but no work ethic or leadership skills to speak of. I learned more running a telemarketing room than they did in 4 summers of stuffing envelopes on the hill.
Please, won't someone think of the interns!?
So it's agreed? The Post needs to stop doing features on interns and wingmen.
I too found it curious that the Post didn't mention the fact that many interns here are only able to be interns because of subsidies from their parents.
The Post didn't mention that because the Post is written for the kind of people who pay subsidies to allow their children to be unpaid interns.
If you're under 40 or under $70,000 per year, the Post is not referring to you when it uses the pronoun "we."
It might be worthy of mention that the pretty woman in the photo, Kira Peikoff, is the daughter of Leonard Peikoff, who is a very wealthy man by virtue of being the heir to Ayn Rand's estate (which includes the rights to all of her books). But, then again, maybe he didn't want his daughter to be one of Rand's dreaded "parasites."
maybe those blue-shirted children international hucksters who are always hustling/hastling people by the farragut west metro (and elsewhere, i hear) could spin off an intern international program and get unsuspecting passers-by to sponsor an intern. imagine how far just $18 a week would go for those needy interns...
Unpaid internships are not an option for poor kids. If I get a White House internship for the fall, I have to get a paid job too, and take 5 classes. The only way that you can work without getting paid is if your parents are suplementing your income.
Yeah, unpaid internships are great experiences, but theyre almost impossible for kids without wealthy parents. If you disagree, I'd guess your dad pays your credit card bill.
Reading this article helps me appreciate how lucky I was as an intern. BYU provides housing for interns in Georgetown right off Penn. Ave. It was less than $375 a month. I can't believe how cheap it is for such a great location.
Ok, I definitely understand where the intern-haters are coming from. As an intern myself, even I don't like most interns. But, thought the Post's article was certainly misguided, it's really not fair to say that all interns are spoiled bitches. I worked five jobs (I'm not even kidding) including an internship while taking four classes and writing a thesis last semester, and I still only barely made enough money to live in a neighborhood where I wouldn't get harassed all the time.
So for all the nasty commenters, trust me, I know better than most that rich kids under 25 are pathetic excuses for human beings, but don't hate all interns. Some of us really are just trying to get by.
"If you're under 40 or under $70,000 per year, the Post is not referring to you when it uses the pronoun "we.""
Awww, daaaaaaaaaamn. You done stole them in they face.
Man, I'm really missing the Evening Star and the Washington Sun. But until they resurrect those corpses, dcist.com will suffice.
And once again, if you can't afford to tip, you can't afford those $2 Bud Ices that you're only going to vomit into your date's mouth tonight.
"If you're under 40 or under $70,000 per year, the Post is not referring to you when it uses the pronoun "we.""
Awww, daaaaaaaaaamn. You done stole them in they face.
Man, I'm really missing the Evening Star and the Washington Sun. But until they resurrect those corpses, dcist.com will suffice.
And once again, if you can't afford to tip, you can't afford those $2 Bud Ices that you're only going to vomit into your date's mouth tonight.
"Her rate: $1,250 a month for three months, paid upfront. Her summer salary: $1,640 a month, before taxes. Her father, a retired professor, wrote the rent check."
Man. Do you folks read the article before you gripe about it, or just infer what you think isn't there?
I was an intern for 8 months receiving a grant from an organization that I worked my ass of to get into. I made about $1600 a month ... guess what, after my internship ended I got hired by the company I had interned for and actually made less as an employee than I had as an unpaid intern. Sure, sucks to be an intern. Sucks more to be entry level.
Now I make about 8k more than I had as the entry-level employee and barely get by. I don't live in the city because I can't afford it.
The interns are obnoxious but I like to try to remember that I used to be one ... but as far as their finances go? Let's remember that having a good time on the weekends isn't mandatory. There are things you can do to save money ... or you can get a part time job somewhere, just like I had to do for so many months.
Hmmm. I read the article a little bemused, since I'm at this moment living off school loans without a penny coming from home, in a one bedroom apartment with three other people, sleeping on an air mattress in the furnitureless living room. But then I started to read the comments, and WOW, are you guys bitter, or what?
If you aren't bitter, stop reading. This isn't for you.
I'm an intern. I'm not getting paid. How does this mean I shat in your Cheerios this morning?Were I to try to write a response in the tone of most of these others, it would go something like this.
"The best part of being an intern is seeing all the washed up has-beens and never-will-bes look on with envy that their lives haven't turned out, and they're still having to live off work that we can do for free during our months off. True, I'll be just like them in ten years, but I'm not now, and it's really nice to be able to enjoy life without having to wash down my bitteness with three shots of hard liquor and a vicodin before bed at night. Gee, it's nice to be able to experience for the first time things that have long ago become routine and depressing for the huge masses of undifferentiated, desperate schlubs whose only joy is going on the internet and commiserating with each other about how much they hate us."
Of course, I don't really feel that way. But sometimes it's fun to make rash generalizations about entire populations of people as if they were all the same, and all setestable. But oh! Look what I'm saying. I don't need to tell you that, you should be telling me!
Joe--exactly. Plus, I'll take a wild guess and say that most of the hardened DC veterans commenting have lived here an average of about three years, before which they were interns themselves, not that they'd ever admit it.
Joe--exactly. Plus, I'll take a wild guess and say that most of the hardened DC veterans commenting have lived here an average of about three years, before which they were interns themselves, not that they'd ever admit it. They can't saw the rungs off the ladder fast enough to suit them...
I blame St. Elmo's Fire for these kids' perception of post-college life in DC. Remember Mare Winningham's apartment (on a social worker's salary, no less) was this HUGE loft? And didn't Ally Sheedy and Judd Nelson live in Georgetown with a view of the Potomac? Um, where does that apartment even exist?
I believe the irony is that part of the exteriors used to represent Georgetown in "St. Elmo's Fire" were actually shot at the University of Maryland. Not that it would make College Park any cooler to most of these spoiled interns; 1) it's outside the District, despite easy mass transit access; and 2) worse, it's in Prince George's County (no status there).
Reading these comments reminds me of the vitriol and envy being spouted around the time of the NYC transit strike last year. Folks were aghast at the idea that the subway conductors and bus drivers were striking for more money and better benefits when they were making $50-$65k a year. "I make less than that, and I have multiple degrees! How dare they?"
Instead of blaming the other person for having better circumstances than you, perhaps you ought to ask yourself why you're willing to accept a job that doesn't pay what you are worth.
I was an intern. It was fun, but I had no illusions about where I stood or how much it cost me to do it. The whole system is geared to favor trust-fund babies or people who are willing to give up their entire lives by working multiple jobs just to "get by." The end result means you have a system run by spoiled, indolent brats, or exhausted, bitter, resentful people who want nothing more than to make others "suffer" like they did.
Neither type of person is the one you want running your government, or making public policy.
"jesus tapdancing christ" was worth reading half of these comments. My new exclamation of choice.
This is maybe my favorite comment ever!
"If you're under 40 or under $70,000 per year, the Post is not referring to you when it uses the pronoun "we.""
That's when Jesus turned to Kay Graham and said, "Ooooh, SNAP!"