DCist T-Shirts
dcistshirt.jpg
About DCist

DCist is a website about Washington, D.C. More

Editor: Sommer Mathis Publisher: Gothamist

About | Advertising | Archive | Contact | Mobile | Photos | Staff | Subscribe

Categories
DCist Exposed Photography Show -- Feb 20-Mar 7
Favorites
Contribute

Latest tip:

There is a suspicious package being investigated near 12th and D St SW, in front of the new Homel [more]

 

Latest link:

 

Latest Photo:

 

Recent Comments
Subscribe
Use an RSS reader to stay up to date with the latest news and posts from DCist.
Overheard
Voting Rights
Public Calendar
Links

September 4, 2007

Bluegrass Listeners Upset by WAMU Changes

2007_0904_wamulogo.jpgIf you were traveling over the holiday weekend, you would have easily missed the announcement that popular local NPR affiliate WAMU 88.5 FM will be making big changes to their broadcast schedule -- most notably moving the entirety of their popular weekend bluegrass programming to an HD Radio channel, leaving many listeners upset and confused as to how the station could abandon their signature music programs on the regular FM dial. Here's what's going to happen come Sept. 17 (or check out the entire programming scheme here):

WAMU 88.5 FM, as well HD Radio's 88.5-1 and the live stream at wamu.org, will switch to solely news, talk, and information, all the time. This includes the addition of public radio staples like Speaking of Faith and Bob Edwards Weekend, and a few new shows including The State We're In, a collaboration between WAMU 88.5 and Radio Netherlands. The Saturday schedule, including A Prairie Home Companion and This American Life, will stay the same. Sundays, however, will no longer carry any music, and instead focus on programming like Car Talk and repeats of The Diane Rehm Show.

In order to listen to any bluegrass, you'll need either to purchase an HD Radio or be one of the 1,000 individual subscribers selected by WAMU to win a free one. The Sunday bluegrass content, currently airing from 1 a.m. to 4 p.m., will move to HD at 88.5-2, where it will join the prerecorded automated music service Bluegrass Country currently heard in HD at 88.5-3, to turn HD 88.5-2 into an all-bluegrass station with live programming.

We got more than a handful of emails from disappointed and upset bluegrass fans, as well as from adherents to the AAA-public station WTMD at 89.7, which has been partnering with WAMU to broadcast independent rock and folk music but will now be relegated to HD 88.5-3 weekdays from midnight to 5 a.m. and 7 p.m. to 5 a.m. What do you think about the change? For those of you who look forward to bluegrass on Sundays every week, will you consider buying an HD Radio? Keep in mind, popular brands retail starting at around $200.


Email This Entry







Advertisement: DCist Continues Below!

Comments (83)

Idiots. Just what people want to listen to on a Sunday morning. Politics. The fools running WAMU need to spend a weekend listening to public radio in Chicago, Detroit, New York, L.A. and take some serious notes.

 

RIP Dick Spotswood.

 


I was initially concerned with the loss of local programming and the conversion of WAMU into a repeater station for nationally-syndicated shows directly available -- without beg-a-thons and "underwriter acknowledgement" commercials – on satradio.

Then I heard from propeller-heads who seriously question the HD Radio monopoly’s broadcast system as well the reception quality.

See notionscapital.wordpress.com/2007/09/03/a-hole-in-the-air/

 

Why would a radio programmer in this market be an idiot for surmising that Washington audiences are interested in politics coverage? Seems pretty obvious to me.
Is C-SPAN Radio on the air in other cities? Are the Sunday morning talk shows required viewing for so many professionals in other areas? No. Why? This is Washington, D.C.
The demise of The Washington Post Radio and WETA's abandonment of talk also provide WAMU with a great opportunity to completely own this audience.
I'm also deeply skeptical that these bluegrass shows are "popular," a claim regularly made when this subject arises.
What is the basis for that assertion? Just because some people gripe loudly about something doesn't mean that a lot of other people agree with them.
Furthermore, does anyone actually believe that WAMU gets more pledge dollars from bluegrass listeners than talk listeners?
Frankly, I'm surprised it took the station management this long to make this change.

 

this is how i felt when wamu put the kibosh on jazz programming back in the day...
radio is a fickle lover...alas...

 

i guess each market has to make its own decisions
concerning programming, but there are a ton of npr shows we dont get here in the capital city... i've often wondered why...

 

I welcome this decision. Devoting hours of airtime to a niche (at best) music format vs. more quality syndicated NPR talk shows? Give me the latter. Get rid of the Thistle and Shamrock, while you're at it.

 

Boooooo! bluegrass rocks!

 

This decision is terrible specifically because it removes virtually all of WTMD from the DC airwaves except during graveyard hours.

In its place, we esentially get more talk and duplicative reruns of Kojo and Diane on the non-Bluegrass HD stream.

DC is one of the few markets that has zero non-com AAA/college music programming (beyond the now heavily scaled-back TMD). Why bluegrass is so much more important than AAA is absolutely beyond me.

AAA is a broad format that plays the artists that routinely pack local venues (9:30, Birchmere, Black Cat, et al), but are heard absolutely nowhere else on the local airwaves. What's more, since TMD is sort of local, it promoted local shows and actually helped to nurture the local music community (something satellite radio could never do). If you're over 15 and have more than a passing interest in pop/rock/folk music, there is now nothing for you on the radio.

Why is bluegrass, a micro-genre, getting 24-hour coverage, while the huge, wide gulf of music covered by AAA, which lies between the micro-formats and the bland commerical radiosphere, relegated to graveyard? Is bluegrass really serving the community more than WTMD would, to such a disproportionate degree that this timeshare would reflect?

WAMU may have a history of bluegrass, but that doesn't mean there are very many listeners compared to AAA in this transitory city.

 

When I first moved to the area, (1994) I thought it really odd that WAMU played bluegrass, and back then it was during the day, drive-time even. I grew up in a rural area, longed to get out, and always hated country music. Over time though, I came to appreciate the Bluegrass on WAMU. I wouldn't say a huge "fan", but I appreciate it as an American folk style of music rooted to a place, time, and people. Unlike the hokey garbage on todays mainstream chart-driven country music stations, bluegrass has an authenticity that attracted me. People singing about their lives, their loves, their land, their heartaches. The music is honest and it is what it is. I'm not very religious, but I was moved to tears more than once while listening to the "Stained Glass Bluegrass" program on Sunday mornings. It's said to see it go.

I don't like other WAMU programming changes made over the past couple of years. I can't listen during the day, so I always liked to listen to the repeats of Kojo Knamdi and Diane Rehm in the evenings, but they stopped those broadcasts. I also like Metro Connection, which used to be on Saturdays, but now is buried in off-hours and overnight. That was a really good LOCAL program that you couldn't get anywhere else, and they buried it. All the local or WAMU-produced content I used to listen to is no longer on the air during the times when I can listen.

Also, I've written WAMU 3 times trying to find out who/what is the (can't confirm spelling) "Sanjo K. Bansall Foundation" that underwrites programming during ATC? It's not listed among other foundations on their website, and I can't find out anything about it. I've emailed several people and they won't answer me. I'm starting think it must be some wacky cult.

When I heard about the programming changes, I've decided that I'm not going to be a "member" of WAMU anymore. I have Sirius, which has the national NPR stuff, and I have become dependent on Sirius for music- because music on the radio in DC is so awful. WAMU doesn't offer me anything unique or local anymore, so I don't see any justification for paying for it.

 

This sucks. Bluegrass makes hangovers go away!

 

The loss of Stained Glass Bluegrass makes the Baby Jesus cry.

 

boo to WAMU. very disappointing.

 

Amen Jeffery and westofrome. Don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out, bluegrass.

Guest 1: I grew up in Chicago and while I miss a lot about WBEZ, I can't tell you how HAPPY I AM TO NOT HAVE TO LISTEN TO MARIAN FUCKING MCPARTLAND ANYMORE. (Which some internet research tells me that even they seem to have dropped, jazz probably not being much more lucrative than bluegrass.)

 

Jeffrey:

Corporate underwriters are more interested in news-blather radio. Bluegrass -- and other locally-focused programming – built WAMU.

Terrestrial radio stations have only one advantage over satradio: they are local – they file maps of transmission coverage areas with the FCC. Exiling locally-produced programs on a format nobody hears so you can re-broadcast nationally-syndicated shows which are available on Sirius and XM is a recipe for disaster.

 

Who has an HD Radio (a registered trademark)? What kind? does it sound any better than regular FM?

Got HD in your car? Hear any difference in that noisy environment?

 

What a relief! I used to enjoy listening to Weekend Edition on WETA, and then they switched to classical and I had to make WAMU my regular radio station - except on Sundays. I don't like bluegrass, and I loathe the endless "my mother/significant other died but it's okay cause we'll meet again in heaven" of Stained Glass Bluegrass.

So, thanks, WAMU. I'll be glad to be able to keep the radio on all weekend once again. And I'll back that gratitude up with membership dues.

 

Sorry, bluegrass fans, but I'm thrilled.

I'm not anti-bluegrass by any means, but it's not what I want to wake up to on Sunday morning. Some bluegrass is fine with me, but there was just too much in the old schedule. Besides, Sundays were made for A Prairie Home Companion.

(-- Drew)

 

"Local" does not necessarily mean "bluegrass," first of all.
I'm sure that fans of this format are bummed. If there was a station for me and my friends that only played late-90s indie rock, I'd sure be bummed if it changed formats.
That wouldn't mean the station was making the wrong move, though. People with musical taste outside the mainstream just have to deal with it. I don't get to hear Pavement on WAMU, either. I've learned to live with that reality.
I'd also advise people not to fall prey to paranoid conspiracy theories about corporate underwriters. Large companies would prefer their names be associated with higher rated programming. They don't have some sort of intrinsic hatred for bluegrass music.
Likewise, radio programmers -- public or private -- have one responsibility: broadcasting material they think will attract the biggest audience. WAMU may learn later they're making a mistake. I'd bet the farm they won't.

 

"I welcome this decision. Devoting hours of airtime to a niche (at best) music format vs. more quality syndicated NPR talk shows? Give me the latter. Get rid of the Thistle and Shamrock, while you're at it."

Ditto that, guest number 7. I hate to come off as a coastal snob, but I just don't "get" Bluegrass music. Waaay too twangy and countrified for me. I'd definitely rather hear more talk, politics, and other non-musical content.

-Mr T in DC

 

I'll miss stained glass bluegrass, but I won't buy HD radio to get it.

Anyone know if Hot Jazz Saturday night is staying? If that got kiboshed too, then I'll be very sad.

 

It's bad enough having to use your alarm on a Sunday, but when you are then rudely awakened by Stained Glass Blue Grass? THAT is something to make the baby Jesus cry, folks. It's almost as bad as when Car Talk ends and that annoying "You Bet Your Garden" dude comes on.

I'm thrilled with this change. Not that I listen to the radio much on weekends, but still. Thrilled.

 

I have HD Radio in my car. It makes the music sound marginally better, but it does cut in and out at times. Public Radio stations seem to be the most fervent adopters of HD. You can drive all around the East Coast and pick up Public Radio stations broadcasting with HD. Sometimes they have other streams, sometimes they don't.

I happened to find a radio that had it built right in, so I didn't have to buy another component. Most radios though, are only "HD Ready".

I'm pretty pissed about all the changes that WAMU has wrought over the last 4 years. I hate Prarie Home Companion with a seething passion. I really miss American Routes coming on after HJSN. And to put Dick Spottswood out to pasture is pretty shameful if you ask me. (All the while we're stuck with FOUR HOURS of old timey radio Sunday nights). I always liked WAMU weekends for the very reason that it wasn't just like WAMU on the weekdays.

I used to give them money. No longer.

 

In response to:

Who has an HD Radio (a registered trademark)? What kind? does it sound any better than regular FM?

Got HD in your car? Hear any difference in that noisy environment?


Yes, yes, yes! I have one in my car and it rocks. It definitely sounds better. It's digital! But the cool thing is that you get double the amount of radio stations... new, different, unique stuff. Did I mention NEW???

WAMU didn't ditch bluegrass. They just moved it!

If you love bluegrass, just get a new radio. You'll have to upgrade to digital at some point anyway. Everything else is digital. Radio will be standard digital eventually. Might as well do it now!

 

HD Radio is the patented technology of the iBiquity Digital Corporation. It is the only FCC-approved system for AM and FM. It is not the only In-Band, On-Channel (IBOC) broadcast system out there. That is why there is consumer, broadcaster, and auto manufacturer resistance -- everybody remembers Betamax.

 

I'm definitely going to miss the overnight and Sunday morning bluegrass programming, but I'm almost definitely not going to buy an HD Radio just to get WAMU.

I can understand why they made the choice, but the replacement Sunday lineup is extraordinarily lame AND lazy: rebroadcast Diane Rehm, rebroadcast Car Talk, rebroadcast Prairie Home Companion, two shows about religion, a Bob Edwards clip show, and a bunch of early morning special interest talk shows that will be listened to by hardly anybody. They're expanding the mediocre (and far inferior to the BBC) Deutsche Welle program Newslink to a full hour every night, and they're putting On Point and To the Point, which are practically identical programs, on back to back. A lot of these schedule changes are mistakes, in my opinion. I suppose it's some small consolation that they're letting Mary Cliff and her Traditions program stay on for a while longer, along with Hot Jazz Saturday Night.

Also, for the anonymous and Google-impaired commentor above, Sanju K. Bansal is (was?) the COO and member of the Board of Directors of Microstrategy (a local corporation), and the Foundation is undoubtedly the vehicle he uses for his charitable giving ... but what in the world made that worthy of curiosity in the first place?

 

I just checked out the preview schedule (http://www.wamu.org/programs/schedule/preview/) and it looks like Hot Jazz Saturday Night will stay.

I'm sad to see the bluegrass go, but I would be even sadder if Hot Jazz went too.

 

#26 Nate,
Google only works if you know how to spell the search criteria, so thanks for answering my question. Despite several friendly inquires, WAMU could never be bothered to answer. I was merely curious b/c I hear it broadcast every evening and was wondering who/what it was.

 

Naturally, anything cultural or quirky gets expunged from DC eventually.

 

I certainly will not be sad to see Blue Grass go. Never listened to WAMU on weekends - they lost me as a listener every weekend. But I am not sure how the new lineup is going to draw me in. I love Dianne Rheim and Kojo but I am not sure that I am going to be tuning into a rerun production after seeing the Post and Sunday morning talk shows.

The show that they should rerun on Sunday is the DC politics hour - usually a great hour of radio but I rarely get to hear it because I am working (same is true for the rest of Kojo and DR but again, not going to tune into a delayed episode on a topic I can get elsewhere). And there has to be more they can get from NPR, PRI or BBC but its a start. And I may just listen if I turn the radio on in the car instead of the instant switch with the Blue Grass on.

 

Honest to god, I hope Dianne Rheim just goes ahead and fucking dies already. I know I'm supposed to be all "aawwwww, they kept her on after she lost all fucking use of her voice" but to hell with it. I don't prefer wheelchair basketball to the NBA just becuase they're trying. Sometimes I want something to objectively not suck.

I know, the usual response is "but she asks such good queeeessiooooonsssss..." Bullshit. She's considerably worse interview than Terry Gross. And even if she was such hot shit, that's what the position of producer is for.

If I ever hear her on my previously blissful bluegrass weekends, WAMU can shove my donations up their fucking ass.

 

Looks like HD Radio is DOA from lack of consumer interest - HD Radio is a scheme by the HD Radio Alliance/iBiquity to jam smaller stations off the dial with adjacent-channel interference:

http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/

 

I am GRATEFUL that I won't have to wake up every Sunday morning listening to another twangy bluegrass version of Amazing Grace.

I never understood why programmers think that NPR listeners just want to hear Bluegrass, Jazz or Classical music. I completely agree with westofrome - AAA needs a radio station in DC and would have a much larger audience than Bluegrass, Jazz or Classical.

It also always amazes me that NPR is completely at a loss for how to attract younger listeners, fresh voices, more money. Seriously? Try adding AAA music to your daily schedule. KCRW in LA has the right idea. Take some tips from their music programming. They have the largest Public Radio Market in the country AND they know what to do with it.

 

The saddest part of this is where it relegates WTMD. The Towson University station offers the best music in the area, but isn't banded widely enough to reach much farther than Columbia, MD. I am moving from Baltimore to DC this year and was counting on being able to keep listening to TMD on my as-yet-unpurchased HD radio. Now I won't spend the money, thanks to WAMU's misguided scheduling decisions.

 

just moved here and was looking forward to listening to one of the very few bluegrass resources in the area. welcome to dc.

 

I am happy to hear that WAMU will still provide http://www.bluegrasscountry.org for the bluegrass fans out there who listen to internet radio!

 

Compared to the execrable genre that is "hot country," I'll take bluegrass' authentic toothless inbred banjo twang and gutbucket boogie any day.

At least they're not singing about their pickup truck or kicking Saddam's ass.

 

According to WAMU, there is a public comment period at their quarterly Community Council Meeting, the next one being on Sept. 25 at 7 PM. I'm thinking of going to express dismay - and more to the point, total and utter confusion at how 24/7 bluegrass serves the community more than AAA would. Just because the area had a demand for bluegrass demographically 40 years ago does not mean this holds today, tradition or no. This doesn't mean that bluegrass shouldn't be on the air to some degree, just not at the total expense of all other non-com genres of popular music!

If nothing else, perhaps WETA could start using its HD channels to pick up WTMD, WXPN, or any of the other non-com AAAs around the country, or perhaps Minnesota Public Radio, which is about to buy the Christian station WGMS for a new talk station in DC, could run The Current on one of its HD subchannels.

When you think of other major cities, DC is almost certainly the least-served in the gulf between traditional NPR micro-genres and commercial pap. When you consider that even commercial radio in DC is terrible music-wise compared to other cities, the need for non-com programming is even greater.

 

To the guest who hates Diane Rehm so much, we readers of this article prefer comments from people who understand English grammar and know how to spell properly. Oh, and commenting to the topic at hand wouldn't hurt, either. I guess we are picky, too.

 

More political talk on WAMU? Great. In a city where everything revolves around politics, it's about the last fucking thing I want to hear when I turn on the radio. The demise of WTMD's relay on WAMU-2 will be greatly missed.

 

I'm surprised so many folks are surprised by the latest programming moves at WAMU.

They've been moving away from LOCALLY-PRODUCED, LIVE, UNIQUE music programming for several years now, using Internet-only feeds and now HD-radio as a supposed "separate-but-equal" dumping ground while more lucrative-audience network chat stuff goes up on the big and easy signal.

Don't like what WAMU does? Stop giving them money and tell them to put UNIQUE programming (and that doesn't include repeats of Diane Rehm) on the big signal.

At least WETA-FM is back providing something different to the Washington airwaves.

 

westofrome: I've been to a so-called WAMU public meeting. There is only room for about a dozen people.

 

this is a raw deal. Sunday bluegrass had become a tradition for me. now I'm lost when I'm cookin' up bacon and reading the paper. it hasn't been the same :~(

 

I made a mistake back in March - I dropped $220 for an HD radio to listen to WTMD via WAMU. Now I am dropped again, and so are bluegrass listeners.

Don't make the same mistake I did. HD radio is too local and too dependent upon the whims of radio station programmers. Who would purchase a $200 radio to listen to more nonsense talk?

Instead look at wi-fi radio. (Easiest thing to do is Google "wifi radio") This device, used with your broadband internet connection, allows you to listen to music from around the world, not just around the Beltway, and you don't need your PC to do it!

Not only can I hear the WTMD feed this way, but you can tune in bluegrass from around the planet.

 

I'm not surprised by WAMU's pandering to the public affairs dorks, but I'm w/the grumpy bluegrass listeners on this 1. This reminds me of what happened w/WDCU when they replaced jazz w/godawful CSPAN. The last thing we need in this town is less music, particularly niche genres like bluegrass & jazz, & more boring political talk shows & "All Things Considered"-type crap on the airwaves.

And techne, what's w/the hating on Marian McPartland? For shame! Her show was 1 of the few that I bothered listening to in Chicago.

 

I'm not a huge fan of bluegrass, but it's a lot better than having another "news/talk/information" station. How many of those does this town really need?

And Diane Rehm reruns? -Kill me now.

 

For a city whose population is supposedly so well educated and diverse, you'd think that we might find a broader variety of programming on the radio here, instead of the same old stale, dumbed-down crap that hasn't changed in years.

 

I found this comment on another blog:

"I am so outraged over this incredibly stupid decision on the part of WAMU radio to move The Dick Spottswood Show to an HD Radio channel that I'm seriously thinking about protesting this sour turn of events by driving a an empty yellow Ryder Rental truck to WAMU's studio offices, parking it in front, walking away and shutting the whole place down for the day."

No wonder, the HD channels are just dumping grounds that no one is listening to:

"Finally, A Good Use for HD Radio"

"HD radio is a virtual garbage dump for terrestrial programmers. There. I've said it."

http://insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com/2007/07/finally-good-use-for-hd-radio.html

HD Radio is nothing but a bad joke and a farce:

http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/

 

For every genius that thinks bluegrass is some dumb-ass niche music, the station is one of the top-5 online radio stations in the U.S.

An interesting story would be discovering who is demanding all of these changes. It's not the person supposedly in charge of the station, but maybe on the board of directors for the station? Maybe the university?

That's the way to destroy an audience WAMU.

 

#49, what's your soure for the online radio rankings? I'm not doubting you, just curious where you would find such a thing. I know Arbitron publishes ratings on radio networks like AOL, but I don't know where to find public data on individual streams.

 

As a hard-core bluegrass/old country music fan, I will sadly miss the programming on WAMU, but I knew it was doomed when Eddie Stubbs gave up his classic country music show...as far as the rest of the sniveling responses are concerned: Get a life! There must be more to life than spending a Sunday listening to Diane, Kojo, and All Things Considered. That is some of the most boring radio I have ever heard!...And reruns at that! And available on many other NPR outlets at the same time. The most entertaining show on NPR is Car Talk. I first started donating to WAMU in the 70's, and quit when the daily bluegrass and folk disappeared some years ago. Watch the donations plummet now!! Let's see if all of you hard-core liberals can keep WAMU on the air.

 

AAA is really really lame music folks, please if you're listening to Adult Album Alternative that's the Perry Como of rock, ok?

But what people never seemed to understand was that there was way too little bluegrass music produced to sustain a radio station. WAMU got into this cycle of playing the same 400 songs and that's neither new, innovative or interesting. I mean that stuff got OLD after a while. Plus bluegrass as a genre didn't introduce enough innovation to keep people interested. Where was the innovation folks?

I am old enough to remember WAMU in the 1970s as a progressive rock and jazz station and they eliminated all of that to play bluegrass which was EXTREMELY controversial. WAMU was all-bluegrass for maybe 20 years which does not mean that it was always that way or that people don't miss their rock programming like that dude Dr. Progresso or whoever. I mean, seriously folks, it's bluegrass. Put the 400 bluegrass songs on an ipod and just listen to it yourself.

I mourn the loss of many DC institutions, but bluegrass on WAMU was a Johnny-Come-Lately addition and not traditionally WAMU. Therefore I don't care that it's gone.

 

#52, I might prefer something like KEXP or even WFMU to more AAA-ish WTMD and its brethren, but it's still 100 times better than what else we have.

 

Indeed I listen to WFMU online as my primary radio station.

 

Guest 49 - even if the rating you're relying on is accurate, it doesn't mean that WAMU is meeting the listening needs of the local community who actually listen to the regular radio. I don't think I should be forced to listen to bluegrass just because people outside of the area like to listen to it online.

 

#52 WAMU has broadcasted Bluegrass since 1967 - 6 years after the start of that small educational station. Bluegrass has continued consistently in varying amounts for 40 years. Their own site has promoted this for years. - http://wamu.org/about/history
You may be thinking of 90.1 WGTB’s progressive rock in the late 70’s before it was killed off by corporate greed.

WAMU has new management, since 2005, that appears openly hostile to Bluegrass, Folk or just about anything northerners and west coasters consider country. But then again Caryn G. Mathes is from Detroit, not a city known for its open mindedness or acceptance of traditional ways, sounds or views. She left Detroit after 21 years for a reason – that reason appears to be to destroy WAMU 40 years of history and traditions down the toilet for more hot air, in a city full of hot air.

HD Radio? My cars don’t have it, my house doesn’t have it, no one I know, has it. $200-$400 for a cheap box with hit or miss reception, which you can’t hook to a real stereo or that, is portable? If you don’t live or drive next to WAMU, you can’t hear it and the same goes for nationwide. No one uses it.. You wonder why the technology hasn’t taken off???

 

Since when can a radio station in the non-commercial band be "killed off by corporate greed?" Since when is donating to another university "corporate greed?"

And do you have documented proof that Caryn G. Mathes wanted to "destroy WAMU?" Can you quote her actually saying that or is this a lunatic conspiracy theory? Do you also believe that the black helicopters are following you?

And if you hate politics and our system of government so much, why the hell don't you get out of Washington and take your trailer park trash inbred Republican music with you? In case you haven't noticed, the majority of District-area citizens are people of color who are tired of hearing White European oppression on their radios.

 

a. WGTB was sold in 1979 to make a quick buck and stop the students from broadcasting. Was there.

b. You only need to actually read what she says and look at what she does.

c. If you could read or had actually graduated pre-school you would notice I said noting about our system of government. Only that I can hear all about it on all the other DC stations. More hot air, different channel…

The only one sounding like trailer park trash, promoting musical oppression, censorship, stereotyping people of color and otherwise and making raciest hate remarks is you.

 

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WGTB:

The station became notorious in the late 1960s and 1970s for broadcasting anti-war and left-wing programming across a 60-mile radius, covering the DC Metro area. The programming caused significant friction between the station's staff and the school administration. As a result, Fr. Timothy Healy, SJ, Georgetown's president, donated the 6700-watt signal, broadcasting at 90.1 FM, to the recently-founded University of the District of Columbia in 1979. UDC sold the signal to C-SPAN in 1997 for $25 million.

--------------

Georgetown didn't sell the station to UDC--it *donated* it, moron. UDC sold the station to C-SPAN. And the radicals weren't the license-holders the *university* was, meaning it has the right to do with the signal what it wants. If the students owned the station, it would've been a different story, aging hippie. That windowpane really fucked you up back in '77, huh?

And if you can't tell the different between NPR and WMAL, you must really be either an acid casualty or an inbred moron.

 

"According to WAMU, there is a public comment period at their quarterly Community Council Meeting, the next one being on Sept. 25 at 7 PM."

Which just happens to be right in the middle of the Arcadia Bluegrass Festival in MD and Watermelon Park Bluegrass Festival in VA. All of the bluegrass music fans will be at these events.

This was the exact opposite of what they should have done and brought more diverse music to the weekend schedule. I am so sick of talk shows!

 

Oh--are they going to have terbaccy-spitting contests and a dunk the cullud booth at those inbred festivals?

And is the KKK going to have cross-burnings and lynchings, too?

 

Wikipedia as your source of truth, history and light? You may have written the article for all I know. Anyone can write anything there..
Try reading some old Post or Washington Star reports at the time.
Anti war protests in 1979? Just who exactly, were we at war with? You? (There was a war on drugs and drug addicts)
Since when, do you think Georgetown U is or was in the habit of donating valuable assets for nothing? Uh.. Never? Get real and put down the crack pipe and whatever else that has melted what little brain you once had.
WMAL? Where did that come from?
And you think I'm on acid??

 

Bluegrass Music: The Roots

The various types of music brought with the people who began migrating to America in the early 1600s are considered to be the roots of bluegrass music---including dance music and ballads from Ireland, Scotland and England, as well as African American gospel music and blues. (In fact, slaves from Africa brought the design idea for the banjo--an instrument now integral to the bluegrass sound.)

As the early Jamestown settlers began to spread out into the Carolinas, Tennessee, Kentucky and the Virginias, they composed new songs about day-to-day life experiences in the new land. Since most of these people lived in rural areas, the songs reflected life on the farm or in the hills and this type of music was called "mountain music" or "country music." The invention of the phonograph and the onset of the radio in the early 1900s brought this old-time music out of the rural Southern mountains to people all over the United States.

Bluegrass music is now performed and enjoyed around the world. In addition to the classic style born in 1945 that is still performed widely, bluegrass bands today reflect influences from a variety of sources including traditional and fusion jazz, contemporary country music, Celtic music, rock & roll ("newgrass" or progressive bluegrass), old--time music and Southern gospel music--in addition to lyrics translated to various languages.

http://www.ibma.org/about.bluegrass/history/index.asp

 

Anti war protests in 1979? Just who exactly, were we at war with? You? (There was a war on drugs and drug addicts)
-----
The anti-war protests in 1979 were part of the No Nukes movement. I remember them and they were big.

 

WAMU has broadcasted Bluegrass since 1967 - 6 years after the start of that small educational station. Bluegrass has continued consistently in varying amounts for 40 years. Their own site has promoted this for years. - http://wamu.org/about/history
You may be thinking of 90.1 WGTB’s progressive rock in the late 70’s before it was killed off by corporate greed.
-----

wrong. I checked the site and by 1977 they say Bluegrass expanded to 20.5 hours a week or roughly 3 hours a day. The rest of the day was other music and talk. By their own timeline Bluegrass didn't take off until 1983. That is exactly how I remember it, It was on in the car one day in high school and it was like country music where before it was hippy folk and jazz.

I remember listening to Dr Progresso's Progressive Rock show on WAMU in the very late 1970s.

I had a teacher who listened to traditional folk music on WAMU and was on a show talking about the dulcimers she built. She was no country musician, we're talking British-style ballad folk. That's the content I remember as a kid.

If anyone who's older than 40 wants to chime in, I'm all ears. I really remember Bluegrass becoming the norm for WAMU around 1983ish.

 

Dr Progresso…
Well he has a website http://www.holeintheweb.com/drp/Dr.P1a.htm

"In the second half of the 1970's I wrote the "Dr. Progresso" column (of import-rock reviews) for the late and lamented UNICORN TIMES, a monthly entertainment paper. From 1977 into 1979, I did the "Dr. Progresso" radio show on the late, and even more lamented WGTB-FM (90.1), on Friday afternoons. (Later I did a segment for the "Overnight Express" on WAMU-FM for a couple of years - until that station abandoned rock - and jazz - for a solid diet of bluegrass.)" I think you can write him and ask for more details if you really want.

Even the Dr. says he didn't get to WAMU till sometime after WGTB dies in 1979.
I enjoyed him on both stations, for the too short of time he was on.
I never was mainstream, following the lemmings over the cliff, like WGTB did and WAMU is doing… All talk, all hot air, all the time...

Next they will be like likely go to all Mexican programming, like another local progressive station - WHFS. 99.1 R.I.P.

How is Bluegrass like Progressive rock? – It was independent, not generally defined by record execs with their play lists and controlled spoon fed pabulum sounds for the masses.

All of the local stations that set themselves apart from the lemmings, running toward the cliff, have been killed off.

In a sea of sameness and removal of identity Who cares if they jump?

The 3 hours or so hours a day WAMU "Expanded" to in 77 was the evening drive time.
This is WAMU’s 40th year of playing bluegrass - they are actually celebrating it.. As they close it down.

 

"Latino" or "Spanish-language programming," racist.

What's your opinion of African-Americans, Asian-Americans, Native Americans, Jews, women, gays and lesbians?--as if we didn't already know.

Funny how aging hippies turn into Republicans--oh, I forgot: "The only position for women in the Movement is prone."

 

lemming, running toward the cliff

 

Ah,


"We’ve got a gang of clueless bozos steering our ship of state right over a cliff, we’ve got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can’t even clean up after a hurricane much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, “Stay the course.” Stay the course? You’ve got to be kidding. This is America, not the damned Titanic.
Well at least someone in the herd has awakened to see our mainstream mass moving relentlessly toward the cliff."

Question is, why did Lemm Iacocca open his Lemming eyes so late in the game? When did the beam of enlightenment dawn on him that The Market was not providing "us" with the best and the brightest for steering our Titanic away from the Iceberg?

And what of the irony? Is he not, was he not, one of the Ring Masters in the Three Ring Circus of Corporate America: GM-Ford-Chrysler?

Lemm Iacocca is of the born-again belief that there is a steering house on our Ship and that someone lives in the steering house; the someone being those he calls the "clueless bozos steering our Ship of State".

The sad fact is, Mr. Iacocca, there is no one home in the steering house. The machine, the ship, steers itself. It's sort of like a herd of wild steer charging maddingly up the ramp to the slaughter house. Each one of us bullies the one in front to "move forward" lest we all fall behind and become one of the left behinds. It is a blind fear. A primitive fear that drives us forward toward some expected Shining City on the Hill. We are not yet bright enough to understand that the light at the end of the tunnel is a locomotive. We have been trained throughout life to believe that charging forward is "progress". Bully for us. (Or should the old saw instead be: "Bullheaded Bulls are Us"?)

But why bother now to take a retiree's pause, to perchance stop in your bull's charge forward, to step back from the ledge, and to take a sweeping look around you Mr. Iacocca? Don't you know time is a wasting? There are so many things that need to be hurriedly "accomplished". So little time.

We each have our own vial of vital vitamin C's: There are Calves to be birthed and herded through College There are Careers that must be built and nurtured in a Constantly Competitive environment. There are fancy Cars that must be bought. There are Consumptionest Estates of Real that must be accumulated and manicured. There are Commies and Crazed Islamists to be gored in our bull's rage "over there" before they do the same to us "over here". There are Corporate Chiefs to be clothed in gilded parachutes and covered with Cradle to Course (Golf Course) Pensions. We have so much to do. Why stop to stare about and waste time?

Lemm Cocca of course continues to believe in The Machine and its main control point: The Steering Wheel. He insists that it is merely a matter of finding the correct "Leadership" to install in key spots. Just implant one smart leader here and another there. Then by magic, the cliffward charge of our mad herd of bulls will veer toward the more correct direction "forward". Here is another excerpt from Lemm Cocca's rage against the cliff (Where Have All the Leaders Gone?):

But when you look around, you’ve got to ask: “Where have all the leaders gone?” Where are the curious, creative communicators? Where are the people of character, courage, conviction, competence, and common sense? I may be a sucker for alliteration, but I think you get the point.
[Stepback insert: You get The Bull's horn. You get the old "you've got to, you've got to". Don't dare step back and ask Why "you've got to"? Bullies know how to bully the herd forward.]
... Name me an industry leader who is thinking creatively about how we can restore our competitive edge in manufacturing. Who would have believed that there could ever be a time when “the Big Three” referred to Japanese car companies? How did this happen —and more important, what are we going to do about it?
Name me a government leader who can articulate a plan for paying down the debt, or solving the energy crisis, or managing the health care problem. The silence is deafening. But these are the crises that are eating away at our country and milking the middle class dry.
Come now Lemm Coccoa. Not one bray from you about "Peak Oil"? Not one bleat bout "Global Warming"? Not one grunt against "Over Population"? Not one nuanced notion that perhaps the whole corporate mentality and consumerist creed might be corraling us toward our own doom? Lay it all down on "Leadership"? Simple as that

 

First, westofrome, MPR is trying to get it's hands on WGTS, not WGMS (which is now a repeater for WETA up in Hagerstown I believe) nor the signal where WGMS used to be (which programs gospel, I think it's called Praise104).

Second, anyone can get WTMD using a WiFi radio. It is virtually the same as streaming online. You can also get 88.5-2 the same way since the bluegrasscountry.org streams online.

Third, Arbitron's ratings are estimates. Exact figures can be given for how many online listeners from the streamers (if you trust them). I don't know whether bluegrass is in the top 5 online (I'd be interested in seeing the numbers), but even so that supports WAMU's move. People are listening to the station online, NOT over the air on 88.5-1. And the distibution of 1000 HD radios ($200,000) to donators during the bluegrass programing ensures they keep those donors. People who don't donate will not get those radios... WAMU loses nothing if it loses those listeners. They never gave anyway. Food for thought. Moreover, if most of the listeners are online, then the live 88.5-2 will be better for them as they get an improved station regardless of what happens on 88.5-1.

Fourth, somebody said WETA is programming "something different". Boy, this really touches a nerve here. WETA's classical programming is exactly the same crap WGMS used to play only without the commercials. Same program director Allison is why. They don't use the full CD library. The choices of what they play is questionable (the Bells of St. Genevieve has played more than any Beethoven symphony!?). They still play movements of pieces as opposed to the whole piece. They play ZERO vocal music except for the once a week opera broadcasts. (Before Allison showed up they actually played some Wagner WITH words, if you can believe that. What a sweet few weeks. It was a shock they played some Pavarotti this past week.) They play ZERO modern music. (Granted that turns some people off, but familiarity breeds appreciation. You can't like something you never hear.) They play virtually ZERO American music. (Before they suppressed their "blog" I showed how they played the same movement of the same piece by Foote every other Wednesday and nothing else from that CD... what a waste.) Despite dumping many hourly NPR updates, they still play ZERO works longer than an hour. (No Mahler symphonies, no old Beethoven symphonies, no complete Bach Goldberg variations, etc. etc.) They play I think exactly one national public radio show (From the Top) and skip over many of the interesting shows available out there (Composer's Datebook, SymphonyCast, St. Paul Sunday, BBC Proms, World of Opera, Sunday Baroque, etc. etc.), and this despite a record breaking fund raising drive. They play ZERO broadcasts of local events at KC or Strathmore. I can play a more diverse lineup of classical music from my CD collection in a single week or two than what WETA will play in a full year! And Marais's Bells wouldn't be on my playlist.

Anybody remember Allison posting on the WETA blog that he would have regular updates about how the construction of the library would be going? That dope was too busy trying to figure out where else to fit Marais's Bells into the playlist again to keep his word and give a single update after his initial announcement. I tend to not want to believe he's that dishonest. No, I think he's just that damn lazy.

Finally, a pretty darn good article on NPR relevant to the current discussion:

http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/mediapolitics/3603.html

Yes, I posted to long, sorry. TM-proxli

 

Have you perhaps considered the fact that the majority of the classical music audience as it presently exists does not want to hear long, boring pieces, screaming sopranos or weirdo avant-garde music?

You ultrapurists have to accept the fact that the classical music audience is drying up because of age and what remains mostly consists of people who want nothing more than high-class background music.

And you also have to accept the fact that this is not 1977, WAMU is not primarily funded by the American University and WETA is not primarily funded by government sources. Public radio simply cannot afford to program to a million micro-niches anymore. It must be run as a business. And WETA has to program what the consensus of people who listen to classical music in 2007 want to hear. And WAMU has to provide what is both the most important service and one that has become what the consensus of its supporters want--quality, objective news and public affairs as an alternative to the far-right-wing nutsos of most commercial talk radio and the far-left-wing conspiracy theorist nutsos at Air America and Pacifica. What is wrong with an objective, centrist news service?

 

Calling NPR an objective, centrist news service is like saying the Washingtonpost is fair and balanced. Hahahhaaaaahahhaaaaahaa Are you kidding? NPR is just another leftist liberal rag. Calling it a an objective, centrist news service is delusional as best, outright propaganda more likely.

 

As you read this letter, you may feel confused at points. If you do, keep reading. The rationale underlying WAMU's ideals is confusing. Fortunately, as you read the superfluity of examples about how WAMU has been trying to formulate social policies and action programs based on the most unprofessional sorts of hedonism in existence, this letter will slowly begin to make sense. Here's the story: We must improve the living conditions of the most vulnerable in our society -- the sick, the old, the disabled, the unemployed, and our youth -- all of whose lives are made miserable by WAMU. If we don't, future generations will not know freedom. Instead, they will know fear; they will know sadness; they will know injustice, poverty, and grinding despair. Most of all, they will realize, albeit far too late, that WAMU has delivered exactly the opposite of what it had previously promised us. Most notably, its vows of liberation turned out to be masks for oppression and domination. And, almost as troubling, WAMU's vows of equality did little more than convince people that there's a time to keep silent and a time to speak. There's a time to love and a time to hate. There's a time for war and a time for peace. And, I feel, there's a time to get WAMU off our backs. Or, to put it less poetically, WAMU's virtue and brains are inversely proportionate to its vices and the size of its mouth. The mere mention of that fact guarantees that this letter will never get published in any mass-circulation periodical that WAMU has any control over. But that's inconsequential, because there is one crucial fact that we must not overlook if we are to perceive our current situation as it is, rather than in the anamorphosis of some "ideology" such as clericalism or Trotskyism. Specifically, as long as the beer keeps flowing and the paychecks keep coming, WAMU's understrappers don't really care that I am not a robot. I am a thinking, feeling, human being. As such, I get teary-eyed whenever I see WAMU work hand-in-glove with the most disreputable nitwits I've ever seen. It makes me want to keep our courage up, which is why I'm so eager to tell you that if one dares to criticize even a single tenet of WAMU's asseverations, one is promptly condemned as intrusive, hectoring, raucous, or whatever epithet WAMU deems most appropriate, usually without much explanation.

WAMU uses the word "auriculoventricular" without ever having taken the time to look it up in the dictionary. Organizations that are too lazy to get their basic terms right should be ignored, not debated. Who could have guessed that WAMU would lead people towards iniquity and sin? To put it another way, how can it be so selfish? I'll tell you the answer in a moment. But first, let me just say that all it really wants is to hang onto the perks it's getting from the system. That's all it really cares about. Whereas WAMU claims that we can change the truth if we don't like it the way it is, I claim that only through education can individuals gain the independent tools they need to shine a light on its efforts to sensationalize all of the issues. But the first step is to acknowledge that the first lies that WAMU told us were relatively benign. Still, they have been progressing. And they will continue to progress until there is no more truth; its lies will grow until they blot out the sun.

I want to make this clear, so that those who do not understand deeper messages embedded within sarcastic irony -- and you know who I'm referring to -- can process my point. Nature is a wonderful teacher. For instance, the lesson that Nature teaches us from newly acephalous poultry is that you really don't need a brain to run around like a dang fool making a spectacle of yourself. Nature also teaches us that WAMU struts like a god on Mount Olympus, looking down on us mortals below. Nevertheless, I can state with absolute certainty that WAMU's statements have kept us separated for too long from the love, contributions, and challenges of our brothers and sisters in this wonderful adventure we share together -- life! Perhaps WAMU received its information (or rather, misinformation) from late-night television programs and "B" movies. Summa summarum, WAMU is proposing a cure for which there is no disease or, more likely, a disease for which there is no cure.

 

I'm sorry, but I just can't avoid talking about WAMU. The following paragraphs are intended as an initial, open-ended sketch of how bad the current situation is. After hearing about WAMU's worthless attempts to shackle us with the chains of misoneism, I was saddened. I was saddened that it has lowered itself to this level.

Fortunately, if you ever get into an argument with some of WAMU's apologists about whether or not there's more to this letter than inflammatory rhetoric, I have an excellent sockdolager for you. Simply inform the other party that WAMU constantly insists that everyone who doesn't share its beliefs is an uncivilized roustabout deserving of death and damnation. But it contradicts itself when it says that advertising is the most veridical form of human communication. WAMU plans to give expression to that which is most destructive and most harmful to society. It has instructed its accomplices not to discuss this or even admit to its plan's existence. Obviously, WAMU knows it has something to hide.

I wish I could say this nicely, but I don't have much tolerance for pouty gadflies (especially the piteous type): WAMU uses the very intellectual tools it criticizes, namely consequentialist arguments rather than arguments about truth or falsity. The fact is, WAMU has never satisfactorily proved its assertion that the boogeyman is going to get us if we don't agree to its demands. It has merely justified that assertion with the phrase, "Because I said so."

When WAMU first announced that it wanted to abridge our basic civil liberties, I nearly choked on my own stomach bile. The public is like a giant that WAMU has blindfolded, drugged, and gagged. This giant has plugs in his ears and WAMU leads him around by the nose. Clearly, such a giant needs to free people from the fetters of nihilism's poisonous embrace. That's why I feel obligated to notify the giant (i.e., the public) that WAMU continuously seeks adulation from its lieutenants. Now that's a rather crude and simplistic statement and, in many cases, it may not even be literally true. But there is a sense in which it is generally true, a sense in which it undeniably expresses how if WAMU gets its way, none of us will be able to give direction to a universal human development of culture, ethics, and morality. Therefore, we must not let WAMU maintain social control by eliminating rights and freedoms.

While I don't know WAMU's secret plans, I do know that if you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem. I shall not argue that WAMU's newsgroup postings are an authentic map of its plan to impinge upon our daily lives. Read them and see for yourself. Once it becomes clear that WAMU's half-measures are colored and flavored to appeal to the worst kinds of self-centered gits there are, it becomes apparent that WAMU has been offering the most stultiloquent sybarites you'll ever see a lot of money to cause (or at least contribute to) a variety of social ills. This is blood money, plain and simple. Anyone thinking of accepting it should realize that I want to rage, rage against the dying of the light. I want to do this not because I need to tack another line onto my résumé, but because I have one itsy-bitsy problem with WAMU's memoirs. Videlicet, they create an untrue and injurious impression of an entire people. And that's saying nothing about how I unequivocally hope you're not being misled by the "new WAMU". Only its methods and tactics have changed. WAMU's goal is still the same: to encourage a deadly acceptance of intolerance. That's why I'm telling you that if WAMU would abandon its name-calling and false dichotomies it would be much easier for me to maintain social tranquillity.

 

This thread is getting wacky.

As for wi-fi radio, sure, I could get any internet radio with wi-fi radio. I sure wouldn't be listening to WTMD. The trouble is reliable reception in the car without paying a hefty monthly data fee.

 

Wi-fi radio - just drive thru peoples front yards on your way to and from work to hack peoples unsecured wi-fi routers for a second or two as you pass by. Of course your card will never actually connect to anyting....

 

NPR is just another leftist liberal rag.
---

let me know what newsstand sells that rag.

 

In case anyone is wondering, the big long, nonsensical comments are generated by the Random Complaint Generator at http://www.pakin.org/complaint/

 


But they seem pretty much on point...

 

"NPR is just another leftist liberal rag.
let me know what newsstand sells that rag."

It's called a tampon dispenser in a public toilet.

 

It's called a tampon dispenser in a public toilet.
--------
and that's where you last bought NPR to read?

 

I have been listening to Stained Glass Bluegrass since its inception. It has been part of my week, starting with Sunday mornings before church. To remove it has eliminated an important part of my week. Boo.

I have been as constant in tuning IN each Sunday morning as I have been in tuning OFF the likes of Dianne Rehm and her bleeding heart liberal associates for decades. To think that you can replace one with the other's reruns is utter nonsense.

What this means is that I no longer will be tuning in to WAMU. It now has been stricken from my vehicle's push buttons. Sorry Red, but I'm glad you got out before the change. Your call, WAMU. I hope that your ratings plummet.

 

And that's why WAMU took the Hee Haw music off. Wingnut morons are not public radio listeners. Go listen to WMAL, trailer park trash wingnut moron.

Oh yes, wingnut: We already know from what you said about Diane Rehm that you're a sexist pig. What's your opinion of African-Americans, Latinos, Asian-Americans, Native Americans, Jews, gays and lesbians--as if we didn't already know?

 
Post a comment (Comment Policy)

2003-2009 Gothamist LLC. All rights reserved. Terms of Use & Privacy Policy. We use MovableType.

Site Meter