December 11, 2007

National Gallery of Art May Expand

2007_1211_nga.jpgOver at Modern Art Notes, blogger Tyler Green has the (hilariously named) MANscoop that the National Gallery of Art is in negotiations to expand across the street from its current location on Constitution Avenue into the Federal Trade Commission building. The deal isn't sealed yet, but Green's sources sound pretty confident that the museum will be moving over to the space in time for a 2012 opening.

MAN has a decent history of the two buildings, noting that, unlike most major museums across the nation, the NGA hasn't acquired space in quite some time. The gallery has been criticized for not putting enough focus on contemporary art, but the perception is that this has largely been due to its cramped quarters. The 1930s-era FTC building in Federal Triangle would be both a decent location, so close to the current structure, and a suitable venue for the NGA's expansion. Green notes the combo of building's stand-out exterior art and architecture but largely unadorned interior, which should give the museum a large, clean slate to work with.

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I think they would do better to try to find something away from the mall and use that space for rotating exhibits, perhaps featuring the work of new artists and events targeted at reaching a broader audience. Something in up 14th Street or in Georgetown or the West End or even in something like Silver Spring, Bethesda or Tysons. Perhaps that's not really the NGA's mission -- and this whole idea should be something that the Corcoran does. It just seems that those museums that are really building a presence in their communities are expanding into non traditional spaces that have a more gallery like mission. The Mall and environs are so cut off from the rest of the community -- even for those that live in DC (probably especially for those that live in DC), I can't remember the last time I went down that way.

 

I don't really see why the "National" Gallery of Art would expand into the DC suburbs. I would imagine that their mission is to provide a valuable gallery experience to those citizens of the country (and non-citizens from all over the world) who travel to DC for tourist purposes rather than to cater to the local community. Instead of questioning the need for another gallery on the Mall why not ask yourself why you live in the Nation's Capitol but rarely take advantage of the incredible cultural opportunities that are available to you in your backyard.

 

I think it's great to expand the current mall museums and attractions beyond the immediate mall fringe. And it makes sense to be adjacent to the current museum. I just hope the ones on the south side do the same, so we can bulldoze L'Enfant Plaza and start over again (without wasting acres of what should be prime real estate).

 

I couldn't disagree with DC1974 more. Putting the NGA into the suburbs would be a terrible mistake; the thousands upon thousands of tourists who come to DC for the "National Experience," and who attend the National Gallery as part of that experience, would be far less likely to go out of their way to Tyson's or a similar location. Maybe it would be slightly more accessible to a few suburbanites and to DC folks with cars, but overall attendance would surely plummet.

As it is, the National Gallery is across the street from the metro, and it's only a 5-10 minute walk from Gallery Place, which is as vibrant an urban neighborhood as any in the city (if a bit pre-packaged). The Penn Quarter area is thriving, and an influx of new shopping and restaurants is beginning to make it a solid evening and weekend destination.

To the extent that museums like the National Gallery are isolated from the rest of the city, it's primarily because of the large number of Federal agency buildings in the area that clear out during non-working hours and in which there are few mixed uses or after-hours attractions.

What we ought to be doing is extending the National Gallery's hours, and using the additional space to incorporate more food and other multipurpose attractions. Not only will this make the museum more accessible and more attractive to visit, but it will improve the quality of the streetscape for the entire neighborhood.

I think this is an excellent move. Now, where are they planning to move the headquarters of the FTC?

 

I agree completely with thefreefood. In addition to being near Penn Quarter, the NGA is one metro stop or a short bike ride away from my neighborhood, which is as non-touristy as it gets. The museum can't be convenient to all DC residents, and if you're using its location as an excuse not to go that's pretty sad.

I do wish they would extend their hours, at least one night a week. That's the biggest reason I don't go as often as I should.

 

I do not have hard data to back this up, but would doubt that the National Air and Space museum's addition, the Udvar-Hazy Center, gets nearly as many people as the original location on the Mall does. It's impossible to get to and no one even knows that it's there!

 

Great idea DC1974, and why not move the MET out to White Plains because who in NYC really makes it over to the upper east side anyway? And move the Louvre out to the 17th arrondissement since it is much easier to get parking there. That was just sad.

A great museum must be by public transport, centrally located, and provide the entire experience in one complex. It IS a destination! If you don't make it over to the national mall area enough, it is obviously because you are not interested in what is offered there enough, so how would moving it make a difference? And Tysons? Really?? Move the NGA to an edge-city named after a shopping-mall? Sprawl hell? I guess maybe the NGA would look good surrounded by 2 square miles of parking lot. Great thinking.

 

I think DC1974 has a decent idea. The point is not to diminish the touristy mission of the main NGA buildings, but to "expand the brand" into more interesting spaces and locations. The main buildings could continue as they are (or be supplemented by the third building) but it could give NGS an interesting opportunity to step away from the formal and austere shackles of the main buildings and let its hair down a little bit in some smaller and more flexible locations away from the mall.

Although my question is how does the FTC feel about this? I'm a little uneasy with the idea of the federal agencies abandoning the Federal Triangle buildings built specifically for them. It kind of sends the message that these agencies are not fit to occupy these beautiful buildings. Although maybe the FTC is just dying for space and is happy to move to a newer building.

 

@ctank: Why don't I go to the National Mall? We'll for one. I work seven days a week. So free time is zero, evenings are spent community organizing and studying. And with the totally city beautiful hole that the national mall is in the middle of -- cut off from the vast majority of the city. Getting to and from it is really a pain anyway.

And frankly, I've done most of the things there. Other than the Hirshhorn. And sometimes the Freer/Sackler. Most of it, to me, isn't worth going back for, especially with limited free time. And I live ihere not because it's the capital -- I good give a flying -- but because that's where my job is. When I take time off, I visit home to see my family or New York or California where my friends are. If I'm lucky, my family visits me here, but they aren't really interested in going to the Mall (again -- they've done that) and its a lot of walking for my mother who is partially disabled and can't walk for long periods of time. And I have had no luck getting friends from other places to visit.

The Smithsonian isn't just for tourists. We are a region of 5 million and if we think that their mission begins and ends with tourists -- there would be no growth. And little in the way of revenue. Most Americans visit DC perhaps once (if that) in their lives. So there is a part of their mission that must include outreach to the local community. And I don't have the attendance numbers, but I think you'd find that the majority of the visitors on annual basis are local. Usually with an expansion, a museum is working to broaden its audience and mission. So I was just suggesting ways that might work for that context. Something that was more akin to a gallery and less a museum -- think PS1 in Queens, although it doesn't have to be quite like that. And again, it's not perhaps the best match for NGA, which is really more like the Met or the DeYoung or the art institute but even the Art Institute in Chicago has worked to broaden its appeal and mission with its successive additions. Although as the school is older there, it is always been an educational institution.

I was just throwing it out there as a suggestion. I do think the NGA does have a reason to be more relevant to the region. The Hirshhorn gets this has been working in that direction.


 

@ctank: Why don't I go to the National Mall? We'll for one. I work seven days a week. So free time is zero, evenings are spent community organizing and studying. And with the totally city beautiful hole that the national mall is in the middle of -- cut off from the vast majority of the city. Getting to and from it is really a pain anyway.

And frankly, I've done most of the things there. Other than the Hirshhorn. And sometimes the Freer/Sackler. Most of it, to me, isn't worth going back for, especially with limited free time. And I live ihere not because it's the capital -- I good give a flying -- but because that's where my job is. When I take time off, I visit home to see my family or New York or California where my friends are. If I'm lucky, my family visits me here, but they aren't really interested in going to the Mall (again -- they've done that) and its a lot of walking for my mother who is partially disabled and can't walk for long periods of time. And I have had no luck getting friends from other places to visit.

The Smithsonian isn't just for tourists. We are a region of 5 million and if we think that their mission begins and ends with tourists -- there would be no growth. And little in the way of revenue. Most Americans visit DC perhaps once (if that) in their lives. So there is a part of their mission that must include outreach to the local community. And I don't have the attendance numbers, but I think you'd find that the majority of the visitors on annual basis are local. Usually with an expansion, a museum is working to broaden its audience and mission. So I was just suggesting ways that might work for that context. Something that was more akin to a gallery and less a museum -- think PS1 in Queens, although it doesn't have to be quite like that. And again, it's not perhaps the best match for NGA, which is really more like the Met or the DeYoung or the art institute but even the Art Institute in Chicago has worked to broaden its appeal and mission with its successive additions. Although as the school is older there, it is always been an educational institution.

I was just throwing it out there as a suggestion. I do think the NGA does have a reason to be more relevant to the region. The Hirshhorn gets this has been working in that direction.

 


UStreet's right. NGA needs to stay downtown. You've got Air and Space out in Dulles, Library of Congress has a great annex but it's way the hell out in College Park. Keeping art where the touristas are, and yeah, bring back the late night hours, even if it's only a first-friday-of-the-month kinda thing.

If it's a question of finances, NGA really needs to expand its funding resources to include more corporate donors and sponsorships. You've got hundreds of true-blue, god-fearing corporations like SkyNet, the Tyrell Corporation, and Weyland-Yutani, who'd love to donate their tax deductable dollars. And really, how many times can you look at Constable's "The Hay Wain" or "Watson and the Shark?" People want to see Austrian-accented cyborgs, sexy replicants, and facef***ing alien parasites.

 

One important side note:

Many Republicans in Congress really dislike the FTC. (Apparently consumer protection and breaking up anti-consumer monopolies isn't really their thing). It's not a particularly high-profile agency, and I think it's therefore seen as a relatively easy target. Right now the agency is under a continuing resolution that severely limits its ability to recruit and spend money.

Moreover, Congress has tried to mandate that the FTC headquarters be given to the NGA before. If you click the link in the article, you'll notice that the terms of the bill weren't particularly friendly to the FTC. I do think that there's a very real risk that this move would be used by the Congress to force the FTC to scale back its operations due to lack of space.

I still think that NGA expansion into this location is a good idea on principle, but I'd like to know more about what plans exist for relocating the FTC headquarters if the NGA takes over its current building.

 

DC1974, no offense, but it sounds like you don't have the time for extra-curricular enjoyment in the first place, so you just want to bring the culture closer to you so you can personally enjoy it more easily. I don't see why your good ideas for improving the collections and exhibits can't happen in a central location, to serve the entire region, and give you and your family a destination worth going out of the way for when they are in town. We need to focus more development inward, not outward.

 

I do not have hard data to back this up, but would doubt that the National Air and Space museum's addition, the Udvar-Hazy Center, gets nearly as many people as the original location on the Mall does. It's impossible to get to and no one even knows that it's there!

I wouldn't say "no one."

According to Smithsonian numbers, the Udvar-Hazy Center got slightly more than 1 million visitors in 2006, compared with just over 5 million for the main building. Sure, only 1/5 of what the Mall location, but certainly not an insignificant number.

 

One important side note:

Many Republicans in Congress really dislike the FTC. (Apparently consumer protection and breaking up anti-consumer monopolies isn't really their thing). It's not a particularly high-profile agency, and I think it's therefore seen as a relatively easy target. Right now the agency is under a continuing resolution that severely limits its ability to recruit and spend money.

Moreover, Congress has tried to mandate that the FTC headquarters be given to the NGA before. If you click the link in the article, you'll notice that the terms of the bill weren't particularly friendly to the FTC. I do think that there's a very real risk that this move would be used by the Congress to force the FTC to scale back its operations due to lack of space.

I still think that NGA expansion into this location is a good idea on principle, but I'd like to know more about what plans exist for relocating the FTC headquarters if the NGA takes over its current building.

 

@ Reid - I don't know the FTC's official position, but would you like it if Congress passed a bill that forced you to vacate your historically significant office building? It would be very disruptive to move the offices of hundreds of people out of a building that has housed the same agency since the 1930s. And, as you mentioned, it would really be a shame to be unable to use the building that was historically built for the agency.

Why is the NGA somehow more entitled to the space than the FTC? I could just as well suggest that the NGA expand into the National Archives Building--it's across the street--and make Archives move elsewhere. I'm sure they'd love to move all their offices and documents.

It doesn't make sense to just kick one government entity out of their own building so another one can co-opt it, unless both parties somehow benefit from the deal. What isn't clear about this article is if there's any incentive for the FTC has to vacate their building.

 

"What isn't clear about this article is if there's any incentive for the FTC has to vacate their building."

As I said, it may well be that the FTC would love to vacate the building. I doubt the facilities are very good, and I wouldn't be surprised if they already have one or more annex buildings to take the overflow. Consider further that the majority of FTC employees are probably suburban residents. They may love the idea of being moved, perhaps to a location nearer Union Station. Or maybe they don't. I don't know.

Also, NGA is not a government agency. I don't think it even is a government entity period, despite the fact it gets funds from Congress.

 

Why on earth would anyone approve a plan that involved reopening in 2012? Don't these guys know that's the year we all either die, or merge into some cosmic consciousness wherein we all are the artwork in the NGA and every other object in the universe simultaneously?

How does anyone plan that poorly?

 

some thoughts: the attendance at the Udvar-Hazy center has--not to put too fine a point on it--sucked. It has gotten nowhere near the attendance it had projected--in part because no tourists go there (its out of the way) and even for locals parking there is ridiculously expensive and there is no really close metro. Secondly the Newseum decided to relocate from VA to right near the Mall (6th and Constitution) because it would attract a bigger audience. So experience shows that it makes sense to keep the cultural attractions easily accesible and central. Personally, I don't find the "commute" from adams morgan to the mall to be too much of a burden, and I love the fact that I can go museum hopping (for free!) in an afternoon.

But the real point is this: the NGA is expanding not because it wants to change its mission but because it needs space. To open a new wing elsewhere far from the current one is not going to solve the problem of space, or storage, really, and its going to divide up the staff in a way that won't be conducive to seamless coordination of the many functions of a museum. So, I think the expansion has much to do with practical considerations of storage and exhibition space.

 

Udvar-Hazy..... the only reason anyone goes is because they have a lot of cool huge planes and such that you can't see anywhere else.

The rationale for placement in Bumfuck Egypt was that the sheer size of the facility made it impossible to locate in DC.

I agree that there is a lot more the Smithsonian folks could do to integrate the National Mall museums into the local landscape. They could do a lot to bring locals back - like opening a few decent restaurants in street level museum locations, providing after hours attractions, etc. The ice skating rink at the Sculpture Garden (?) was a nice step in the right direction, but I think even it had fairly limited hours.

The National Mall buildings are a huge waste after hours. And it wouldn't take that much effort to integrate it into the rest of the city.

 

The Air & Space annex out at Dulles is awesome. It would be almost impossible to get a Concorde or a Space Shuttle onto the Mall, hence the location next to an airport. And there is a shuttle from the main NASM on the mall to the Dulles location.

 

I remember back in the '70s when NGA and a few other Smithsonian museums were open until 9 on the weekends. The crowds were pretty thin, but that was back when the biggest business on Pennsylvania Avenue was the Apex Liquors, nobody lived downtown, and all the workers rushed back to the burbs so as not to get shot. Now with all the Penn Quarter condos and Chinatown tourists, they've got a guaranteed audience. Aren't the museums one of the reasons they blew half-a-mil on a condo down there in the first place? You'd figure they'd want to hang out after most of the tourists have split.

Of course, I'm not allowed in the Hirschorn since I got busted for spitting at the Morris Louis mural, but it was worth it. My only regret is that I ran out of phlegm.

 

Hillman- I agree.. It also seems like simply being open past 5pm could do a lot, but maybe that's just because it would be more convenient for me.

To say that the mall is hard to get to is a joke. There are 5 or 6 metro stops within a few blocks, and a ton of bus lines go through or near the mall.

 

HCE - I thought they discontinued the shuttle.

 

I agree that having the museums stay open later is a great thing. The corocran isopen late on thursdays,and there's usually a good crowd then.

SAAM and the National Portrait Gallery are now open till 7 pm I believe. The NGA used to be open until 7 on Thursdays way back when, but they evidently stopped because of the cost. Maybe it would be better to close it one day of the week (like monday) and keep it open late. The Hirshhorn's late nights and 24 hour art parties have been a big success.

 
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