July 2, 2008
Morning Roundup: Handcuffs and Trigger Locks Edition
Good morning, Washington. D.C. Council member Phil Mendelson is hosting a roundtable meeting at noon today on revising the District's gun laws in response to the Supreme Court decision last week. D.C. Wire has the witness list, which is made up of concerned citizens, pro and anti gun advocates, and caps off with Police Chief Cathy Lanier. The front of the Post's Metro section notes that every single one of the D.C. Council members have signed on to support Mendelson's bill, and that Mendelson has said he will depend on the testimony he hears at today's roundtable to decide whether emergency legislation should be introduced before the July 15 recess. Otherwise, the Council won't vote on the bill until the fall.
MPD Discovers Historic Handcuffs: The Examiner reports that Workers cleaning out a closet at D.C. police headquarters last week discovered the handcuffs used to detain the man who assassinated President James A. Garfield. Neat. Considering that earlier this year, the department found a historic booking log that is one of the first written records of the assassination of President Abraham Lincoln, seems like maybe they ought to hire a new cleaning service just to make sure they know what they've got in there.
Fenty Replacing Taxi Commission Members Who Opposed Meters: More from the Examiner, this time with the scoop that three members of the D.C. Taxicab Commission who opposed replacing zone fares with time and distance meters will be replaced by new mayoral appointees. Hopefully those new members know that even with meters, some taxi rides are still just as confusing.
Briefly Noted: Crews have repaired a cracked rail on the Red line at the Takoma station ... Man found dead at Loudoun County jail ... D.C. preps to test mass evacuation plan.
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So long as the Council doesn't try and implement some restrictions that amount to a de facto ban ( restricting ammunition access or piling on the red tape) there shouldn't be any problems. Local restrictions should reflect Federal ones: no mentally ills, no convicted felons, no history of domestic violence or narcotics abuse, above a certain age, etc. It'll probably be more like MD than VA, limiting the number of purchases, wait periods, stuff like that.
But when the s**t finally comes DOWN in DC, the only thing that's going to get evacuated is peoples' pants. I want to be there when Mr. and Mrs. Stands-on-the-Left gets his lardass stomped DOWN.
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i am starting to like the idea of the "state" owning the gun shop in the city. that way, if run correctly (i know, i know, i'm asking for a lot there), the city will have direct access to records of who owns what weapon, and who bought what ammo.
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I'm not so sure I am comfortable with Fenty's dictatorial style of leadership. How many more years before the mayor's position is up for reelection?
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Phil Mendelson should go away. He thinks anti-loitering laws aimed at groups of drug dealers hanging out in areas deemed hotspots are a severe violation of civil liberties, yet he wants to regulate law abiding citizens with registered guns to keep them locked up, unloaded, and kept in a safe.
Whose side is he on?
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Mendelson is your basic pinko liberal wuss. Bad guys should be treated with kindness and love. Good guys should be regulated out the wazoo.
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That rail isn't the only thing cracked in Takoma, but I suppose a rail is easier to repair than a community belief system.
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"I'm not so sure I am comfortable with Fenty's dictatorial style of leadership."
My guess is, he's seen enough DC local politics to know that nothing gets done unless you mandate it, or smoke a crack pipe with a hooker. And it's debateable how beneficial the latter is for the community at large.
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"Mendelson is your basic pinko liberal wuss. Bad guys should be treated with kindness and love."
Yep, us pinkos love nothing more than giving a great big, sweaty hug to the guy that just mugged us. It's been our m.o. for years.
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@IMGoph:
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. . . that way, if run correctly (i know, i know, i'm asking for a lot there), the city will have direct access to records of who owns what weapon, and who bought what ammo.
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What makes you think any information related to legal gun and/or ammo purchases will be relevant in violent crime investigations, seeing as how there are already plenty of violent crimes committed with guns obtained illegally, for which there are no records?
And how, under the "Staatpistolengeschaft" model is competition supposed to work to ensure that I, the consumer, get the best price on my new .357 magnum with Playa-Dissin (TM) shells?
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14thandYou - I am a liberal but I agree with the statement about Mendelson. He isn't living in reality and believes that liberalism is all about joining hands and singing kum-by-ya. Guys like that give reason a bad name.
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Might want to clean those closets out more often.
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g lover park: of course illegally-owned handguns won't be on this list, but i think it will protect the law-abiding gun owners by making it very simple for the police to quickly determine that a law-abiding citizen's gun wasn't involved in a crime when said police can quickly compare ballistics details...
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Felons, the mentally ill, drug users, and wife beaters are still going to buy their guns and ammo from the same people they always have.
Only law abiding people will go the gun store and deal with the registration red tape.
By the way, there is an interesting article in the Post about ex-offenders marching for jobs: Ex-Offenders Protest Dearth of Jobs, Services
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/01/AR2008070102608.html
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Felons, the mentally ill, drug users, and wife beaters are still going to buy their guns and ammo from the same people they always have.
Yeah, but when the mentally ill buy the rayguns they use to defeat the blancmanges from the Planet Skyron in the Galaxy of Andromeda, the cops will be their with a pair of handcuffs to arrest the non-DC-approved raygun dealer.
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@IMGOPH
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. . . but i think it will protect the law-abiding gun owners by making it very simple for the police to quickly determine that a law-abiding citizen's gun wasn't involved in a crime when said police can quickly compare ballistics details...
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I've been wrestling with this for about 5 minutes now and I think I figured it out, but please let me know if I am wrong?
(1) I buy a gun in DC at your District gun shop (which I am sure won't have any of the problems like they have at other agencies like the DMV, where your hard earned $1700 will buy you US citizenship, or the OTR where they just take the treasure home at night and don't return it; and with all of those problems highlighting how F^&*ed up the DC government is, I am sure there'd NEVER be any guns disseminated illegaly out the back door, but I digress)
(2) The gun I buy has its ballistics tested and recorded
(3) Somebody holds up the Malt Liquor store at the corner of 15th and Fuller and shoots every Korean in sight
(4) The DC cops show up and pull slugs out of said Koreans and their establishment
(5) Those ballistics do not match up to my gun
(6) As a nasty gun owning conservative (who is clearly worse than Hitler and Pol Pot combined for exercising his constitutionally protected freedoms), I am removed from suspicion and not hauled away to jail.
(7) Problem solved, although we still have no idea who shot all those Koreans.
(8) Underpants
(9) ?
(10) PROFIT
Makes sense to me.
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Godwin's Law invoked in less than 16 posts? I believe that's a new record.
And I think you screwed up. #8 should say "KHAAAAAAAAAAN!"
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Re. Godwins Law: I'm going on vacation this PM, and couldn't wait.
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No worries. I can barely make it to lunch without mentioning Hitler at least three times. "Goddamit! This fax machine is worse than Hitler!" "Who's the lousy stinking Hitler who didn't flush?" "Some idiot really Hitlered up the copy machine."
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I interested to see how many more lawsuits it takes to get DC's gun laws to an 'acceptable' point constitutionally. The city attorney & police chief are still claiming they're going to keep the ban on all semi-automatic pistols, essentially still banning everything except revolvers. I'm not sure if allowing only pistols of pre-1890's design will cut it.
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I don't quite understand the rationale behind keeping the ban on semiautomatics. Is it just that semiautos can carry more ammo? They don't fire any faster than a revolver.
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g lover park: well, i never called you a nasty gun owning conservative, that was your own insecurity manifesting itself, i suppose. have a terrific vaca, though. when you get back, we'll have enough guns to shoot up all the koreans you want.
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If Sony can sell MP3 players out of a vending machine, I don't understand why I can't buy a gun out of one. You got all those empty cigarette machines taking up space around town. C'mon, how many times have you been standing in line at the VD clinic next to some wheezing asthmatic having an attack and some punk with a sucking chest wound and you say to yourself, "I'd do anything for a gun right now." And your only options are $1.50 Pepsis, Twizzlers, and honey buns. I mean, cut the crap, people! WHEN DO WE GET THE FREAKING GUNS? I'm OUTTA here! I've had it up to HERE with your "rules!"
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IMGoph,
There are already enough guns in DC to shoot up alot of Koreans if that's your bag. However, very soon those attempting to shoot up said Koreans have to wonder - Does Mr. Kim have one too? Up till now, they knew he had his dialing finger for 911 vs. their piece.
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@IMGOPH
Well, now wait a minute: you said you wanted to protect me (as a conservative gun toting/owning/loving conservative, who I assure you is quite nasty) from suspicion in any violent crime involving a gun by confirming it wasn't my gun that was involved in furtherance thereof. According to your view therefore, everyone who legally owns a gun must be a suspect if you need to check the records to make sure it wasn't a legal owner's gun that was used in the crime.
And I'm not disagreeing that a ballstics pre-test is necessarily a bad idea, since it could very well be that someone who legally bought a gun used it to commit a crime. But what I AM saying is that is a pretty wierd place to start the inquiry on getting to the bottom of who shot up those Koreans because, of all the guns used in crimes in our fair hamlet, I know for a fact that nearly every gun used since 1976 was illegally obtained and that the gun ban didn't do squat to stop any of it. And I doubt that, with the number of violent crimes committed here already, the overturning of the ban is going to represent a huge spike in violent gun crimes anyway, since the only new guns in circulation will have been obtained by people who respect the law and have obtained their weapon through legal means.
And as for me wanting enough guns to shoot up all the Koreans, well, last time I checked the folks who are in the bidness of shooting up Koreans (not me by the way) had all the guns they needed. I'm looking forward to the Day when the Koreans have the ability to shoot back. Note, not when they actually start shooting back, but simply have the ability. Because I bet you a Twinkie when they do a lot of these stick-ups will cease because the punks who walk in there thinking Mamasan doesn't have a piece may not be so sure all of a sudden. See, I think the Koreans getting shot up in the first place is a bad idea--bad for real estate values, ya know.
But so long as we are on now on the subject of what does and doesn’t work in terms of new gun regs: I’ve got a few ideas the DC Council can have for free:
1) Possession of an illegal handgun: mandatory minimum 5 years
2) Possession of an illegal handgun in furtherance of a felony: mandatory minimum 20 years.
3) All violators of handgun regulations prosecuted as adults
@Monkey: continuing of ban on semi-automatics?: one of many future lawsuits to be fought and lost by the District on your taxpayer dime.
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Considering how many Starbucks are about to close in DC, isn't it time they got repurposed as Guns And Buns franchises?
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SOME semi-automatics can carry more rounds than a revolver, and some can't. They also don't shoot any faster. It's just an irrational fears of DC gov't and police who don't know any better and can't be bothered to consult anyone [hello - ATF'S technology branch has a DC office last I checked]. DC's firearms laws don't even make sense technically. Many of the "definition" used in the code are not correct. Technically, under current DC law, every Glock an MPD officer carries is a "machine gun". Obviously it's not.
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g lover park: would firearms be allowed in said korean bodegas? the way i understand it, the council is looking to make it legal to possess firearms in the home. they said nothing about one's business.
'cause if you can have a piece at work, national geographic is going to become quite possibly the most michigan-milita-esque building in the city, mofos...