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July 7, 2008

The War on War on Drivers

2008_0707_commuters.jpgYou may have read Eric Weiss's story in Sunday's Washington Post, which described the District's attempts to improve pedestrian safety and encourage walking and mass transit use as a "war against workers who drive into the city." There's not much more to say about it that David Alpert and Ryan Avent haven't already said. This sums it up nicely (from Avent):

Essentially, Eric Weiss went around the suburbs asking folks to bitch about the District’s efforts to make the District a better place for people who live and pay taxes in the District
What we found especially irritating was how washingtonpost.com packaged the story with two online polls, one asking District residents whether they "agree with the city's plan to discourage people from driving into the District", and the other asking suburban residents the same thing. If you look at the results, you'll see that a majority on both sides think the city is doing the right thing, even though perhaps predictably, suburban respondents were less enthusiastic than city dwellers. A WaPo commenter did our work for us:
I applaud your coverage of the regional transportation issues. Re-examining our choices in light of current resource presures and climate risks is increasingly important. However, as you report, please be careful not to "make the news" by framing issues from one side or the other? For example, the poll associated with this article asks "Do you agree with the city's plan to discourage people from driving into the District?" I suspect the response would be different if it read "Do you agree with the city's plan to improve air quality and pedestrian safety, and provide safe routes to school?"
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Well I see your point, but there are those of us who live in DC and work in Maryland and Virginia. Many of the anti-commuting policies that DC is advocating have detrimental effect on us as well as suburbanites. Really, in the future, you are as likely to find your dream job in Takoma Park or Reston as you are on K Street. What then?

 

"Well I see your point, but there are those of us who live in DC and work in Maryland and Virginia. Many of the anti-commuting policies that DC is advocating have detrimental effect on us as well as suburbanites. Really, in the future, you are as likely to find your dream job in Takoma Park or Reston as you are on K Street. What then?"

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So wait, eliminating the extra lanes for commuters coming *into* the District from Maryland has a detrimental effect on people trying to drive *out of* the District...uh, by, um, giving them an extra lane to, no wait, that's not it...uh, wait...no...

???

 

I don't see anything in the article that would really affect a reverse commute.. can you describe the "detrimental effect[s]" of the policies on your commute?

(For the purposes of discussion, I'm ignoring the 395 plan because we all know that isn't going to happen)

And really, it seems like there are only two policies that people are complaining about: Having to pay more for parking, and not getting one-way expressway-streets.

 

It'd be terrible to get rid of the reversible lane on 16th Street and replace it with an island with trees on it. People aren't going to stop driving, they are just going to idle in front of my apartment building in the gridlock that will inevitably result! I'm not even sure how this would reduce pedestrian deaths since most of those come from Metro buses anyway.

 

That whole story was just a piece of sensationalism written by a Washington Post writer who couldn't find a good story by the deadline.

After reading the blog you could truly get a sense of how hateful people become when you talk about commuting and taxing. UGH.

Boo Hiss to the Washington Post for publishing that piece of crap.

 

The Post Metro section continues it's inevitable decline to irrelevance. That article was a steaming pile of lopsided ca-ca. The biggest advertisers in the Washington Post are car dealers and real estate developers. They created the goddamned suburbs in the first place. Of course they're going to play suckbutt to their constituencies. It's like the Post is realizing that nobody's buying their race-baiting stories about evil gentrifyers drinking the blood of crackbabies, so they move to the next best thing: innocent doe-eyed commuters cowering in rapt horror as the DC Council uncoils it's blood-engorged tax policy, its tip glistening with anticipatory fiscal prudence, eager to ravage their poor virginal checking accounts.

 

this is being discussed on richard layman's blog as well. this is pretty blatantly slanted. you're absolutely right that, by couching this article in other terms, it could have been seen as pro-walking and pro-transit. it seems like a simple case of the paper looking to foment argument for the sake of creating news and selling papers.

 

Unfortunately, I think that the proposed closure of the 395 tunnel to NY Ave. would really have a terrible impact on the surrounding neighborhoods. I'm a district resident and I utilize that route several times a week. I'm terrified to see what will happen once all the traffic that utilizes that tunnel is forced onto surface streets.

 

There are a lot of examples of cities closing highways with no ill effects - Portland did that on their waterfront, as did San Francisco with the Embarcadero. Neither noticed an uptick on nearby streets.

 

"Really, in the future, you are as likely to find your dream job in Takoma Park or Reston as you are on K Street."

That's unlikely. Being in Reston would pretty much disqualify any job from dream-job status in my book.

Besides, I'm fairly sure that the pro-normal-commuter policies actually hurt the reverse-commuter. I imagine some people would love to take Canal Road west from Georgetown in the morning, but sorry, that's for Maryland and Virginians only in the morning.

Weiss should be embarrased of this article. He might as well double down with a second article "Suburban Mother Heard That Somebody Once Got Mugged Around There."

 

all I know is that 95% of the cars I saw downtown after the fireworks were from MD... and 80% of those were honking their horns and giving looks of disgust when they couldn't move because the road was full of people walking to metro.

that and I again almost got run over by another MD driver on 15th street last week as he sped up and swerved when I was crossing the road.

 

" I suspect the response would be different if it read "Do you agree with the city's plan to improve air quality and pedestrian safety, and provide safe routes to school?""

How is that example not blatant framing itself? If they wanted it to be neutral how about simply, 'Do you agree w/the District's plan', y/n?

 

I live in Greenbelt, MD... I still prefer less cars and more traffic calming on dc streets... (not to mention Greenbelt streets). Call me liberal but I'll avoid driving whenever I can, especially when the alternatives are better for me AND the environment (even if "the environment" we speak of is ony the air pollution I ride and run through every day just for living in the region).

 

I'm not sure that there really is a 'plan'. That really gives DC way too much credit for actually being able to implement any sort of cohesive plan.

Each of these things are separate issues.

For instance, the 395 closing is one thing (and and unlikely one).

It has nothing to do with the ongoing problem of suburbanites hogging all the residential parking in our neighborhoods.

And actually both sides are wrong here. Suburbanites have gotten used to getting their way with parking in DC neighborhoods (all the while imposing far more restrictive parking rules in their own neighborhoods). But the anti-car folks in DC are quite often annoyingly self-righteous and unrealistic.

 

Everyone here will take much enjoyment and insight from the fact that I, completely anonymous to everyone here, find this Post article to be complete hogwash.

I understand if you want to reward me in some way for providing you with the insight into what is no doubt an amazing mind. Trust me when I say the fact that my words will make you smarter, happier and more complete is reward enough. For I, boondoggle, think the Washington Post has produced an asinine piece of journalism.

 

sordid: of course the second choice is blatant framing. that was the point of writing it like that. it proves the point that neither way would be neutral.

 

and i just want to know from those who think that closing the stretch of 395 will result in traffic problems....have you driven the area around the 395/ny ave/nj ave mess? could it get any worse?

read this post at greater greater washington about using the right-of-way for the blue line separation. sounds like a genius stroke to me. almost too convenient. i love it.

 

Two words: Commuter Tax.

Those who want to drive into the city can pay for the privilege and in exchange they will get better maintained less congested streets.

Put all of the money into expansion, modernization, and maintenance of the metro system and you got yourself a city right there.

 

Thank you for raising this issue--I thought the article was completely slanted, as well, when I read it. I wondered whether the Post was going for a shocking 'City vs Suburbs'-type coverage just to sell papers, as it was on the front page. I look forward to reading letters to the editor regarding the article. Also, query whether this article's slant is an issue to be raised by the Post's Ombudsman?

 

When I read this story on Sunday the first thing that came to mind was, "this is definitely going to lead to a post on DCist with 100+ comments."

 

On the rare occasions that I join the rush hour commuting herd from a relatively close-in DC starting point, I have to say that I've come away impressed with the Md/Va commuters' collective resilliency -- the absurd gridlock makes me borderline apoplectic, but these brave souls endure this nonsense every day.

 

Dream job? In Reston? Really? Did that just happen?

Why don't they just change the name to Accenture, VA and get it over with.

 

I think the proposal to take away the reversible lane on 16th Street is interesting when considered in conjunction with the 16th Street Line bus study. It seems to me that taking 16th Street down to 2 lanes in the peak would significantly affect the ability of buses to get people downtown relatively quickly and reliably. District planners and policy-makers need to remember that there are quite a few commuters in this city who rely on buses to get to/from our jobs. Without reasonable bus service, many neighborhoods along 16th Street would be much less desirable.

As a pedestrian, I'm not sure I buy the argument that a landscaped median is necessary in order to get across 16th Street. If I was going to do anything to improve the quality of the pedestrian experience on that street, I would widen the sidewalks and increase number of trees between the sidewalk and the road. And yes, I understand that would also require taking a lane from traffic - but if you're going to do it, do it right. Think of 16th south of U - two lanes in either direction, wide sidewalks, and plenty of mature trees.

 

A commuter tax will solve all of our problems! Or wait, would it just give more money to a completely inept government?

I'd love to have a commuter tax but only if it was put DIRECTLY into tax refunds for DC residents. I wouldn't trust DC not to screw up anything else.

 

soo who is predicting the upkeep cost of metro once people decide to commute via train/bus? it is already bad enough being packed in like sardines every morning with delays on train arrivals.

 

oh yea, and then you have the daily idiots who dont want to move the eff out of the way when you try to get off the train, and the idiots who want to stand directly in front of the doors as people try to get off the train, and then the idiots who still use the damn paper metrocards every morning... im sure im missing many types of idiots here.

how about we start at home, and not just "imrpove" but FIX the metro first, and THEN talk about forcing people to use alternate sources.

 

*improve, rather...

 

Can't we just let the MD & VA commuters decide how to run transportation in DC?

I'm sure given Virginia's transportation funding gridlock qualifies them to run this place.

And, Marylands transportation planning gridlock (hmmm... sound familiar... see VA above) qualifies them to run this place.

Thankfully, DC residents are near tops in the nation for percentage using bikes, buses, Metro, and feet (imagine that) to get to work. That's the way WE do it!

 

i guess, what you're saying anticritic is "DC represent!"?

 

Sounds like the WP guy gave too much weight to the mid atlantic ED for AAA, just like the examiner guy did. Shocker.

 

Interestingly enough Mr. Weiss is (or at least was) a resident of Adams Morgan...makes one wonder whether he drives to 15th & L or takes the L2? I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that he doesn't walk down to 15th & L or he wouldn't have written that story.

 

Hehe... your lovely sarcastic responses just made me realize that I'd rather live in Reston than this hell hole. Bye kids.

 

Here I sit here on my balcony in Southwest DC watching those Virginia jackasses inching across the Washington Channel bridge.

Ahhhhhhh ... life is good. Life is very good in DC.

 

Ahhhhhhh ... life is good. Life is very good in DC.

Oh, hell yeah. Particularly if your name is Duke Cunningham and you're banging hookers in your SW DC houseboat. F**kn 'a, man.

 

I wonder if there is a significant number of commuters who drive to neighborhoods with metro stops and then commute by train. I saw that pattern a lot when I used to live in the Boston area, and it seemed like a convenient and environmentally friendly way to commute if you didn't live near a station.

So, I'm genuinely curious here: if you drive all the way into the District for work rather than driving to a train station and parking, why? Is it really that much more convenient to sit in gridlock and then have to pay an arm and a leg for parking?

Personally, as a car-less District resident and frequent walker/biker, I would love to see more commuters take public transit into DC. There's just so much congestion, and I've almost been run over or doored by aggressive out-of-state drivers so many times...

 

It's not gridlocked 24/7, so if you get up early enough, you can dodge most of it. Thing is, that "early enough" is getting earlier and earlier.

As for parking, lots of businesses subsidize it, and many agencies provide it for free, so lots of people use it. Induced demand, dontchyaknow. Get rid of subsidized parking, and they'd either take mass transit or look for a job elsewhere. Either way, you get people off the roads.

Then again, for every driver who says f**k this noise, you may get some new transplant willing to take his/her place. People tend to go where the jobs are, and compared to Detroit and Oxnard, DC's looking pretty good.

 

DC should stop catering to people who don't live here. But I'm sure some silly Republican in power will be very happy to slap down the district as soon as the suburbanites who only work here complain loudly enough.

 

DC should stop catering to people who don't live here.

Oh, hell yeah! Screw those 15 million visitors and that $5.2 billion they spend in DC! S**t, I can spend more than that at one meal at Proof!

 

you know that the residents of the city would more than likely be willing to deal with all of the shit that comes from being a colony if the congress and suburban jurisdictions would just come out and say "sorry you get dumped on. nothing we can do about it, but we're genuinely sorry".

we'll still be happy to take your money. and don't forget to use the free valet for the trebuchet when you dine at proof...

 

@ standrightwalkleft

(background: I live in shaw aka logan circle east for you realtors)

I noticed a funny thing yesterday. A couple of MD cars parked on my street, got out and went to the bus stop around the corner. I hope they got parking tickets, or since they were MD cars they got the church parking carte blanche????

 

"sounds like a genius stroke to me. almost too convenient."

Which means it can't possibly be done...

"how about we start at home, and not just "improve" but FIX the metro first, and THEN talk about forcing people to use alternate sources."

No one is forcing anyone to do anything. If you want to drive, you can. However, it may take a little longer than before and you may have to pay more to park.

 

The Washington Area Metro Transit Authority should be ashamed of itself. The way this region deals with mass transit is a distracting embarrassment, like sweaty body cavity farts during marathon balling sessions. At a certain point, commuters just have to yell, "Give me a towel and bust a nut so I can go to sleep!"

And that goes double for Metro Center on Sundays!

 

@ monkeyrotica:

Am I the only one who is satisfied with DC's mass transit system? It's not Paris, or London, or Tokyo, sure, but we don't have the population to support a huge system. It's cheaper than every other major system in the eastern US, the coverage is decent given the population density (especially when you take the buses into account), the trains and stations are clean (ever been to Boston? or New York?), I rarely wait more than 10 minutes for a train (unlike Boston, New York, Philly, and Atlanta), and the system is decentralized, so you never have to transfer more than once (thank you Rosslyn, Pentagon and Fort Totten - this was one of my pet peeves about the Boston system). Maybe I'm just a little more appreciative because I grew up in a sprawling Southern city where the population is totally dependent on cars, but guys, come on. It's amazing to live in an American city where it's possible to live without a car. I moved to DC a year ago and haven't even needed to rejoin Zipcar yet. I love it.

 

"So, I'm genuinely curious here: if you drive all the way into the District for work rather than driving to a train station and parking, why?"

The most common complaint I hear from suburbanites is that many of the Metro and train parking lots are not big enough - that to get a space you have to show up really early, and by say 7 am they are all filled.

I don't know how true or widespread that is, but I hear it a lot.

 

"The most common complaint I hear from suburbanites is that many of the Metro and train parking lots are not big enough - that to get a space you have to show up really early, and by say 7 am they are all filled. I don't know how true or widespread that is, but I hear it a lot."


This is 100% Factually true. I used to do this and still have nightmares about it. Would try to park at branch avenue and metro in. Except if you didn't get there by 7AM it was completely full. So then had to go to Suitland next stop down the line. That would fill by 7:30ish. So then would have to consider drastic and imaginative ways to park. Of course the whole time metro mocks you by having tons of reserved parking spots that are very underutilized, though I am sure the tourists love them as you can park in them after 10AM. (You will get a ticket if you park earlier)

This was over a year ago so I imagine that the problem has gotten far worse as people try to limit driving as much as possible. Also the response I hear from other people is that the other park and ride stations are exactly the same. Metro needs to expand their parking badly, though I imagine they are making nice money off the parking tickets of desperate commuters.

 

of course, another thing that people who drive to metro stations might want to do is learn what buses they can take from their homes or neighborhoods to those stations. i'm not saying that would work for everyone, but i'm sure there are a lot of people who might live a couple miles from a station and are within a couple block distance of a bus line that terminates at that station.

 
So, I'm genuinely curious here: if you drive all the way into the District for work rather than driving to a train station and parking, why? Is it really that much more convenient to sit in gridlock and then have to pay an arm and a leg for parking?

It's usually not as simple as hopping on a metro. I live in Annandale and I commute by car 2-3 days a week and by public transit the rest of the time. The fastest way to do it by public transit is to take a bus to the Pentagon, get on the metro, transfer lines, and then take a shuttle or walk 20 minutes to work. It's a bit of an ordeal and generally takes a little longer than driving.

If I drive, I have to deal with traffic but I can drink coffee on the way and there's a free parking lot where I work. My girlfriend and I commute in together so the price of gas is split in half.

Neither situation is ideal, but we pay half as much to live in the suburbs as we would in DC so it's worth it. I imagine for those living even further out in the suburbs, the public transportation situation is such a hassle that they'd rather sit in traffic.

 

I live in DC and oppose the proposal to close the NY Ave entrance to 395. It seems to me that this would just move more traffic off the major thoroughfares of 395 and NY Avenue and onto our residential streets. Traffic already cuts through my neighborhood of Hill East to get from 295 to 395, and this would just increase it.

Also, while I support using tax dollars to expand Metro, we need to be realistic about the fact that many commuters living in VA and MD are not able to use Metro. Most don't live within walking distance of a station (and being within walking distance seems to add about $100K to the price of homes, putting this out of the reach of many).

In addition, most Metro stations either have no parking at all or very inadequate parking (e.g, all spaces fill by 7 a.m.). If we want to reduce driving into the city, more parking at Metro stations would be a good place to start. But we would also need to expand the number of trains, as many lines are at capacity during rush hour already.

In sum, I think if we want to reduce auto traffic we need to explore real solutions that provide alternatives, not just say that people are evil and should be punished for the sin of needing to get to work!

 
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