July 22, 2008
Transit on Tuesday: The People Skills Edition

Metro, you know that we love you, and that sometimes, life isn't fair - after all, you've had kind of a rough year so far, and us transit buffs, we understand that. But you surely can understand that when we start seeing comments like, "I'm planning to go back to car pooling. Really. I'm getting fed up with this," we worry. Because for all your wild successes this year in getting people to the new baseball stadium and being able to cope with a huge uptick in riders - the general public tends to lose sight of them when incidents involving heat-bent tracks and derailments come into play. Which is why yesterday's dissemination of information relating to the commotion on seemingly every line of the system - not your fault, by the way; a power outage caused by faulty Dominion Power feeders is what knocked out power to the Dunn Loring station - is so potentially damaging to the good work that you do.
For example, as commenter Mainland pointed out yesterday, Metro's apocalyptic warning message to riders commuting home:
Metrorail is currently experiencing a service disruption at All Stations station.Disruption details: Due to a system-wide signaling problem. All metrorail trains are experiencing delays in both directions.
Rail line(s) affected: All Lines.
We understand holding some things back so you get it right, but it's very easy for non-Metro enthusiasts to look at this, roll their eyes, and scoff that mass transit has "failed" again. Whereas a smidgen of information that would assist people to get home might just turn the tide of public opinion to Metro's side.
Photo by DMM 88.
Our own food writer Jamie Liu was stuck in the mess on the Red Line at the converging center of the city:
I was stuck at Farragut North trying to go toward Shady Grove. After three trains passed me going the other direction, and the crowds were only getting denser, I hopped it to Gallery Place where it was completely empty. I waited five minutes for a train that had some seats left. By the time we got back to Farragut North, I saw some of the same people from when I had left.Not everyone is as crafty as Jamie when it comes to navigating the Metro, but something that really could have assisted in a scenario like this is communication of available information. When the electronic scheduling and signaling system goes down at every station, Metro workers and train operators should be used as conduits of information for customers. It's damage control, if you will. Would Metro have prevented immediate frustration by telling customers that conductors needed to manually phone in their locations to headquarters? Maybe not, but long-term faith and goodwill toward transit has got to begin with transparency and communication.
The Weather Isn't The Only Thing That's HOT: Well, well, this should be so much fun. Adam Tuss has the lowdown on the work that the Virginia Department of Transportation is undertaking for the next 18 months to install HOT lanes on the Beltway. Although the work is being conducted mostly in the late evening and early morning, there's always that potential for something to go awry, so we're advising cautiousness on the part of Virginia drivers. The full construction of the HOT lanes is expected to be completed in 2013 - an outline of the project so far can be found here.
Engines and Cabooses: Orange Line not the only one with major delays this week - VRE experienced significant backup this morning, due to a system failure on the part of CSX's rails... An accident involving a Metrobus slowed the Connecticut Avenue rush hour commute yesterday afternoon... Arlington to raise cab fares; new fare structure goes into effect August 1... Arlington bus drivers are on strike, so some supervisors have taken over driving duties... More fun with Chevy Chase traffic cameras: woman is charged twice for similar infractions, files appeal to be able to choose which ticket to pay.




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you're right on the transparency thing. isn't that what advisers to political campaigns preach....get all of your information out in the open so people can't criticize you for hiding something?
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"We understand holding some things back so you get it right, but it's very easy for non-Metro enthusiasts to look at this, roll their eyes, and scoff that mass transit has "failed" again."
Just another application of the double standard. We routinely accept traffic jams caused by no apparent reason, but if Metro isn't able to be omniscient and communicate the info to you telepathically, they've failed.
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Politburo - The primary cause of traffic jams are people standing by the side of the road apparently doing nothing. And although one would think judicious application of the Second Amendment would eliminate this problem, you're left with an even more attractive crime scene to slow down traffic.
Open lines of communications would imply a sort of give-take relationship, which is not what customers have with Metro. You're also assuming that Metro managers know what the f**k is going on. Metro's attitude is, "You give us your money, you shut the f**k up, stand there, and take it. We will tell you what to do. What are you going to do about it? Drive?" Which is exactly what some people are doing. The inconvenience of paying to be stuck in traffic is outweighed by the inconvenience of being trapped in sweating train underground. In the former case, at least you have the option of getting off the road and taking a side street. In the latter, you have to rely on Metro's good graces and your Boy Scout training to fashion an improvised thermite explosive out of rubber bands, paper clips, antacid, and breast milk.
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The thing with traffic jams is that there's no-one around for you to ask what's going on, or when it might clear. But transit services have employees (bus drivers, train conductors, station managers) who people feel should be able to give them information. It's a simple matter of customer service -- if you have the information, share it. If you don't have the information, at least give the appearance of trying to be helpful.
At Clarendon yesterday I asked the station manager what was going on. She just kind of shrugged and said "major delays, all lines. No idea when it will clear." Did she have the information about the signaling problems and what was causing them? If she didn't, she should have. It wouldn't take much for her to then offer the information to me and make me feel that Metro was on top of things.
Luckily I had driven to work yesterday (was planning on leaving my car there overnight) so I just went back up the escaltor, hopped in my car, and drove home. Traffic was amazingly light, too.
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To vent about this:
1. Virtually every time I have experienced something like this, the on-the-site communication has been atrocious. Metro employees are unconcerned or hostile, assuming you can yell at sufficient volumes to be heard in their time capsules; the loudspeakers are garbled; the electronic info boards rarely focused.
2. Is there any way of tracking the overall number of delays on the Orange Line, and communicating with Metro (e.g., an online petition) if doing so vindicates my perception that it is going to hell in a handbasket (sharing tracks)? Or does the email alert system magnify the delays?
3. [Insert obligatory exclamation of outrage about the rate of escalator and elevator (esp. Courthouse) outages.]
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3. [Insert obligatory exclamation of outrage about the rate of escalator and elevator (esp. Courthouse) outages.]
Chalk another one up to fatties destroying our infrastructure. I smell al Quaida. Al Quaida and Dippin Dots: The Ice Cream of the Future...TODAY! Somebody needs to send those f***ers to Guantanamo.
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The problem (for me) is that alternatives to the elevator add more than five minutes to the commute, via the long escalators and hallways that lead to the alternative exits -- which are located far away from the elevator exit, and in the opposite direction from where I'm headed. Additionally, the exit nearest the elevator is closed through at least part of the fall.
Signed, one who also refrains from racing to the elevator and taking it up all by my lonesome, unlike all the other fatties.
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"She just kind of shrugged and said "major delays, all lines. No idea when it will clear." Did she have the information about the signaling problems and what was causing them? If she didn't, she should have. It wouldn't take much for her to then offer the information to me and make me feel that Metro was on top of things."
So you admit that knowing information about the cause would have changed nothing (except your feelings).. and yet you're still pissed about not having it?
I love to know what's going on, too, but there are practical limitations. With the internet and 24/7 news world, I think we've created an unreasonable expectation of instant information gratification.
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It is nice to know what the cause of the problem might be because at times i can adjust my schedule / route / method to destination based on that information. On occassion i've left the station and returned home or work or taken a taxi or bus.
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I am surprised at how lenient some of us are being with regards to the WMATA's utter failure to serve its customers yesterday. I for one still have not forgotten the 22% fare-hike we were subjected to earlier this year to retify a $190 million budget shortfall.
When I am paying $2.65 each way to get from work (a 14 minute, 6-stop trip from Silver Spring to Union Station), which is an extremely high price relative to other cities' subway costs, I expect to have good service, always. I expected to see improvements in the system with the extra cash flow from increased prices and ridership (in the last month Metro achieved 9 of their top 10 daily ridership records). Such has not been the case. Service is usually excellent during weekday commute hours, and abysmal at all other times. In a time where mass transit is such an obvious solution to many problems, from gas-related budget constraints and environmental concerns, the riders are left stranded in unbearably hot stations.
Now the thing is, it's July in DC. Is this weather really surprising to a transit authority that has been in the area for four decades? They should be doing everything it takes to keep the rails from bending and their passengers from suffering heat strokes as they wait? Clearly they're not. Maybe they're allowing the system to go down in flames as a maneuver to find a dedicated fund to the system. Either way, from a customer perspective, this is completely unacceptable.
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I would be more forgiving of metro's foul ups if they ever got around to fixing their gates so that If I enter a station and then a train isn't coming for a long time I can leave and not be charged.
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Hey, earlier this summer I was commuting from Woodley to GMU everyday, at something like $4.60 in rush hour. But that said, are our fares really that high? I'm only familiar with New York and Philly, but $2.65 versus $2 doesn't really seem significant, and in Philadelphia you have to take an actual train to get out to the burbs.
On the other hand, we may have unreasonable expectations about information, but Metro also clearly has customer service issues. (Prostitution aside. Can't really speak to that side of things).
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bv2112 you seem to be living in some sort of fantasy land. How can a fare increase that is due to a budget shortfall also result in improvements? Don't forget that Metro is also affected by the rise in energy costs. An expectation of "good service, always" is simply ridiculous, for obvious reasons.
In the past 10-20 years or so, transit agencies have made a distinct effort to call the riders "customers". I think this may have backfired, since "customers" tend to demand miracles, and then get pissy when the laws of thermodynamics disagree. Maybe Metro needs to offer free cockpunches to smooth things over.
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I may be wrong, and this may have started a long time ago, but the last time there were power issues at the end of the Orange line I noticed the PIDS notification displays included an estimated time to resolve in the scroll. Something like:
"Massive delays on the Orange Line due to power problems...have fun...estimated time to resolve: 2hrs"
Now maybe they can't always estimate the time it will take to clean things up in every situation, but I at least found that little bit of extra info pretty helpful.
Unfortunately during that apocalyptic day these same screens were stuck, at least for a time, only scrolling these messages. Not exactly helpful when all you want to know is when the next Red Line train is coming....
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by2112: what is your feelings about amtrak costing more than Delta Shuttle for a trip to NYC?
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You know what else Metro could have done? Warned us BEFORE we went through the turnstiles. The entire Orange Line is backed up by the 38B Bus, and the central section of the Red Line is backed up by the Circulator Bus. I'm sure I'm not alone in saying that I would have taken that option, had I only been warned before paying my fare and descending into the madding crowd.
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DC is a third-world ghetto sh*thole, and Metro is a third-world ghetto sh*thole transit system.
I've had more problems with Metro than I have with virtually any other transit system I've taken, with the possible exception of Chicago's CTA back in the mid-90s.
For example: I live in Silver Spring and often find *all* the farecard machines are unable to accept credit and debit cards. This happens about once a month lately, and sometimes it doesn't get fixed for almost a week. Do they ever put a sign up on the machines? No. So you have lines of people, natives and tourists, at each of the machines trying to figure out what's going on. When this happens to me, I try to find a Metro agent, and they're almost without fail surly, passive-aggressive, and unhelpful. Even though every Metro station has (or is supposed to) little passes good for a free ride that they give you when they screw up, I've had to actually fight with the employee to get one. And this when NONE of the farecard machines is working.
Have I ever had a similar problem anywhere else? No. I can't recall the card links ever being down in NY, for example.
I don't know if it's the everpresent stick-it-to-whitey mentality in DC, or simply sheer laziness, but Metro employees are among the worst, most useless workers I've ever come across.
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@Lau
$2.65 vs. $2 can add up quickly...to approx. $325 (roundtrip) a year based on a 50 work-week year. That's a lot for some people. My daily rountrip cost is about $8, so it's usually still in my interest to drive, but I'm sure a lot of people don't have that option.
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I think anything close to $325 year is a pretty darn good deal for commuting. Even $8 / day isn't too bad at $2000 / yr you probably are still saving more money than driving when you factor gas, parking, wear and tear, extra insurance. Plus you'll spend more time in traffic jams then be affected by poor Metro service outages on occassion.
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Can DCist please add a "third world shithole" tag to stories?
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Jason,
You are one angry little monkey, aren't you.
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Come on, goph.. let's not pretend it doesn't exist. I'm not saying it's universal, but it's certainly true that large numbers of black people in this city hate whites (and Hispanics, too, based on my friends' experiences) and aren't shy about letting us know.
Ignoring reality doesn't improve reality.
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I can see why the metro employees are a little surly given they have to spend their entire day in a dank hole, but many times they do seem outright hostile.
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Ignoring reality doesn't improve reality.
Are you f***ing kidding me? Clearly, you have learned nothing from what I've been posting here lo these three years.
You can either be pissed off at arrogant Metro workers, or you can focus on the positive side, like the fact that Marion Barry isn't chewing your face off. It's your choice. Choose wisely.
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C'mon, cut the Metro guys some slack. If you were trapped underground in a decrepit, perpetually disintegrating hellhole and had to listen to whiny little pieces of s**t making petty demands for dignity, you'd be kinda sore, too. Now you know how Satan feels, and his little walkable, low-carbon-footprint community is far more organized than WMATA. Fast trains and handbaskets EVERYWHERE, bitches.
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I do have to admit that Monkey's posts often improve reality. The ones I can sort of understand, at least.
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Politburo: You question why I would expect improvements after a fare hike due to a budget shortfall. Well, if there had been sacrifices in maintenance and number of rides because funds had been diverted to its creditors, I think it is fair to expect that things will improve. Instead, after being subjected to a 22% raise, WMATA tells us they think they need another $498 million (or thereabouts, if memory serves me right). I just don't like the idea of paying more for service that is becoming less reliable. And by the way, we're all customers if we're paying to use a service and I will be continue exercising my right to complain at bad service as long as it's bad.
erahk0: I think it's kind of absurd that Amtrak costs more (they're probably charging a premium for less hassle than the airports and downtown-to-downtown service), but it's moot for me, as I ride the bus between both cities. I don't think it's valid to compare Amtrak and airlines to this particular situation. The demand to get to/from work within your hometown should be much more inelastic than that of getting between DC and NYC, not to mention there isn't much of a substitute to Metro for most people in DC (not all can afford cars or ride bikes to where they work).
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"or you can focus on the positive side, like the fact that Marion Barry isn't chewing your face off."
If he chewed slowly at least maybe you'd get a tiny buzz off the residual coke in his saliva / sweat.
See? Not all bad.
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bv2112: That's a big if. What if there had been increases in energy costs? Is it still fair to expect things to improve?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying metro is perfect or that people shouldn't complain. It just seems like you've got your expectations set unreasonably high.
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@Politburo: I wasn't at all pissed by the station manager's attitude. However, I do think Metro could stand to do a better job of communicating with customers (and yes, I think that is exactly the term we should use). There is no reason for us to accept mediocrity in our transit services. Because when you accept mediocrity you end up with SEPTA (motto: "We're getting there").
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Metro employees are among the worst, most useless workers I've ever come across.
I take it you don't shop at CVS?
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jason: you're right, there are people in town who have that stick-it-to-anyone attitude, but i don't get the feeling that it's exclusively "stick it to whitey". it's more like "stick it to the man", but like everything else in DC, what is really a money issue, or a power issue, or a class issue, becomes a race issue.
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Hey, earlier this summer I was commuting from Woodley to GMU everyday, at something like $4.60 in rush hour. But that said, are our fares really that high? I'm only familiar with New York and Philly, but $2.65 versus $2 doesn't really seem significant, and in Philadelphia you have to take an actual train to get out to the burbs.
Or you could move across to the other side of the park and make up the cost on rent alone....
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Politburo - The primary cause of traffic jams are people standing by the side of the road apparently doing nothing
*bzzzzt* Wrong.
I have it on good authority (i.e. Hillman) that nearly all traffic jams are caused by drivers obeying the posted speed limit. The rest are caused by "signaling" and "proper lane discipline" in that order.
Fortunately, this rarely happens.