Woman Killed in Bizarre Hamburger Shooting

2008_0923_hamburgershooting.jpgIn the annals of heartbreaking, senseless violence in the District of Columbia, this one ranks right up there at the top. WJLA and the Post both have stories about the shooting death of 18-year-old Tanganika Stanton in Northeast over the weekend. The story D.C. police are telling is that Stanton was approached by 19-year-old Terrence Jones while she was sitting outside her home eating a hamburger. In an apparent attempt to flirt with her, Jones asked Stanton to make him a burger. When both she and her mother refused to cook him food, Jones left, then returned with a gun and shot up the house. Stanton and her mother were both shot; Stanton died, while her mother was shot in the foot and is expected to make a full recovery. The Post's story plays up the weird hamburger aspect of the shooting, but WJLA's video report makes the important point that this was really about a young man who was aggressively engaging in street harassment. He felt rejected, and lashed out. It's a horrifying story for any woman who is accustomed to street harassment from men in this city. Jones has been arrested and is being held without bond.

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This doesn't surprise me at all. The violence in this city has gotten so utterly disgusting that I'm just numb to it all.

And the death penalty is a bad option for douchebags like this because.....?

This is so stupid. I don't even know where to begin. Just...a burger, really? First it's a bad parking job, now it's a burger, what's next? Rap snax?

how the fuck can someone grow up believing that the proper response to a rejection from what amounts to a terrible pick-up line is to shoot the person and her mother?

i can see why some women might be a little on edge after reading something like this.

Seriously....?
A refusal to make you a hamburger...?

SERIOUSLY???

The first person to post a LOLcat joke in this thread gets it.....

the press should stop referring to these perps as 'men' because they are really animals that have just been taught to walk upright.

That is seriously f'ed up.

I mean. Wow. I just can't imagine anyone being so callous.

We need Bill Cosby to run for mayor of D.C. He knows whats going on. He's not afraid to speak his mind about the way some urban urchins act. Has the
idiots mama go on tv about how her lil darlin' is so precious and that we don't understand him.

Where do these idiots get their guns? Are they giving them away for free in school?

unfuckingacceptable! like you said, sommer, it's terrifying for any woman who deals with street harassment. but i will never be "accustomed" to it...

and, really, it's terrifying for anyone who wants to be able to give someone an honest answer to a ridiculous question without being killed. KILLED!

unfuckingbelievable.

my thoughts are with the stanton family.

I always thought the Hamburgler was a f**king a**hole. Walking around mumbling, "Robble, robble." What the f**k does that even MEAN?

Waiting for the inevitable handwringing press conference from Mayor McCheese and Officer Big Mac, as well as pleas from the neighborhood Grimaces in their "Stop Snitchin" teeshirts for "more police protection."

it's terrifying for any woman who deals with street harassment. but i will never be "accustomed" to it...

Amen, sister.

If what I read is true about his feeling of rejection reported by WJLA and seeming to imply he's a victim than i won't be watching WJLA until they get it right. Shame on them.

Ah, darn, monkeyrotica got to it before me. I was going to say that it was OBVIOUSLY the Hamburgler, who obviously has been in withdrawal due to his recent court battle that requires him to maintain a minimum of 100 feet between him and the nearest fast food joint at all times.

I'm just amazed how someone could take another life because they said "NO."

I want to make a comment connecting this to the stupid forcing gun owners to have insurance if they want a gun article, but it just seems cold hearted.

Instead I will just go with how incredibly sad and stupid. Lock him up and throw away the key.

RE: Where do these idiots get their guns? Are they giving them away for free in school?

Your comment suggests that half the asshats out there doign this kind of garbage make it to school in the first place... on the other hand, that might be an interesting incentive to keep kids in school! Don't pay them for grades, give them a commemorative DC v. Heller gun upon graduation!

@OldPosterKnownAsCranky

if you believe this wouldn't happen in pro-death penalty states like Virginia or Texas, then you'd probably be interested in this bridge I'm selling. The death penalty deter murder anymore than DUI laws deter DUIs or the War on Drugs deters drug dealer etc etc ...

So sad, my condolences to the family.

As for Jones may he have hamburgers shoved into his lower orifices for many years, and everything but hamburgers shoved into his upper orifices. I am sure that will not be a problem where he is going.

Is the title meant to be some feeble attempt at humor? B/c it's not funny.

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Sexy Fistum: you got some weird shit going on with that avatar. Looks like spooge or some kind of flesh-eating bacteria.

"I'm just amazed how someone could take another life because they said "NO."

It's sadly not the only time this has happened. In Florida, Mildred Beaubrun was shot and eventually died from her gunshot wounds because she rejected some sorry, trifling thug, and Adilah Gaither was killed here in DC for something similar. Those sadly aren't the only women who were senselessly killed for rejecting these sorry men. What will it take to make the streets to be safer for women

No woman should have to be afraid to live her life. Action really needs to be taken against these men---no, scratch that---monsters.

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"Where do these idiots get their guns? Are they giving them away for free in school?"

Excellent question! I thought that the DC City Council's gun laws were keeping weapons out of the hands of criminals.

The death penalty deter murder anymore than DUI laws deter DUIs or the War on Drugs deters drug dealer etc etc ...

Who cares about deterrence? I want these a**holes out of the gene pool NOW before they start breeding more little homicidal lunatics. Which is why abortion should be legal until the fifth decade. If you haven't gotten your s**t together by then... Hand me your Agonizer, Mr. Chekhov.

Then again, it's probably pointless to kill them. Their 28-year-old grandmothers will probably poop out two more for every one you execute.

@SexyFitsum - it's not about deterrence. It's about society saying that some acts of violence are so depraved and evil that the perpetrator loses his right to continue living.

The sad thing is that he'll be convicted on manslaughter charges (because his lawyers will convince one of this city's finest jury pools that he was in emotional distress) he'll be sentenced to 15 to life, and get out in 7.

as far as punishment goes...
1) there's no chance someone who murdered another person over a cheeseburger gave any thought to the possible consquences. the guys is mentally fucked.
2) my biggest qualm with the death penalty is it's not harsh enough. people die all the time, and their punishment is over with. life of solitary i think is a much more fitting and harsher punishment. no books. only bread, baloni and water. and decades to reflect.

Well, I wouldn't believe anything a policeman told me! The cop probably planted that gun and the cheeseburger on that poor little boy. The same thing happened to my nephew! Our jails are already too filled up with our children. They just need to go to church and eat fewer hamburgers and fried chicken and less Newports. Did you know the KKK owns KFC and puts fiberglass in menthol cigarettes? I am not insane!

The police should shoot him on spot the second they arrive at the scene and feed his body to pigs. The human race doesn't need these creatures.

Do they have visiting hours where this piece of garbage is right now? Because I would love to sit right in front of him and eat my Five Guys burgers while licking my fingers and moaning in pure ecstasy.

@alewis
well, you'll be happy to know that the finer jury pools of DC -- which roughly translates to thinly veiled snideness about black people who're willing to let off one of their own at any cost, just because... -- are and have been getting whiter by the week, and therefore less willing to be the enablers you think they'll be. there. sleep well tonight.

@old..cranky
you'd expect a society of laws and stuff to bases it's laws and punishments according to some sort of positive outcome. so what's the point of executing someone, esp when private super max's are so good at at they do and can turn a profit to boot? Also, when you remove "of violence" from your line about "It's about society saying ..." I see one hell of a slippery slope.

Mind you, I'm not some mamby pamby "hugs are the answer to all our problems" hippy guy or anything. I just don't get the point of capital punishment beyond the satisfaction of some group blood lust.

make sure you tell us how you really feel, sean jean. don't hold back.

her mother was shot in the foot and is expected to make a full recovery.

I don't think anyone can truly make a full recovery after seeing their daughter gunned down over a burger.

This is a tragedy that would be outlandish in a more affluent area, but seems to strike me as typical for The District in a way.

I just don't get the point of capital punishment beyond the satisfaction of some group blood lust.

Don't knock blood lust. If it weren't for blood lust, Leif Erikkson would never have rowed his Viking ass to Newoundland and raped and slaughtered his way to Minnesota.

No. Waitaminit. That was Leif Garrett. That second album of his definitely counts as capitol punishment, particularly "I was Made for Dancing."

@Sexy Fitsum
White or black, it doesn't matter. I've had a chance to sit on a jury and the level of incompetence is astounding, regardless of race. People want be protected from crime but don't want to take actions to punish offenders. The same thing goes for judges and prosecutors... new felony case filings have decreased a third from 8,013 in 2004 to 5,256 in 2007, and of those new case felony filings, prosecutors ended up dismissing 1,367 (source: DC Courts). I don't know about anybody else, but it sure doesn't seem like crime declined by a similar percentage. I'm just waiting for the news that this animal has previous felonies and was out on probation/parole/bond.

@Sexy would you say maybe there is a case for capital punishment ...after the individual's third death or injury by shooting?

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@alewis
The sad thing is that he'll be convicted on manslaughter charges (because his lawyers will convince one of this city's finest jury pools that he was in emotional distress) he'll be sentenced to 15 to life, and get out in 7.

Well, judging from the two juries I sat on, since I'm sure your implication is that black juries would be less inclined to convict, the people who were ready to throw away the key asap were black women. Of course, by saying that, I'm stereotyping as much as you.

The most incompetent people in the DC court system, by the way, are the lawyers, also judging from my pathetic experiences.

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The solution is obvious...ban hamburgers.

As for Jones may he have hamburgers shoved into his lower orifices for many years, and everything but hamburgers shoved into his upper orifices. I am sure that will not be a problem where he is going.
stmove, I don't think this will solve his hamburger craving. What he is likely to have forced in his orifices are wieners, not hamburgers. And we know what he thinks is an acceptable response to someone who disses you...

The most incompetent people in the DC court system, by the way, are the lawyers, also judging from my pathetic experiences.
In my jury experiences, lou, it is the witnesses that were the worst. None of them seemed credible except in one civil case where one (black) defendant out of six seemed credible and honest. He ended up being dropped from the suit before we deliberated.

@alewis
point taken. pardon the assumption.

@erahk0
I understand killing in self-defense (and I get that the death penalty can be seen as exactly that) what I don't get is the whole old testamenty ceremony of taking an eye for an eye. lock him up, put him on a a chain gang of some sort punching out license plates or repaving roads. We can keep a misfit from scoiety while giving the GDP a cheap bump. Why waste an able body when you don't have to?

@HCE

regarding my avatar: yeah well ... you look like you sh#t in the woods

can i ask those calling for immediate blood how they felt about what happened to Ronnie White?

@alewis:

The numbers you're citing are about prosecutors, not juries. Is there any evidence that District juries are less willing to convict than other juries? Because I've served on a jury for four criminal cases, and we convicted all four times.

From the link you provide, in 2007 District juries convicted felony defendants 57% of the time, or 67% of the time if you exclude mistrials and hung juries. I don't know how that compares with other jurisdictions, but a quick Google says that in 2003, US conviction rates nationally were 46% for rape, 69% for murder, and 54% for other felonies, so despite the apples-to-slightly older apples of a different cultivar nature of the comparison that might not be too far out of line.

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"regarding my avatar: yeah well ... you look like you sh#t in the woods"
I do! As I hear you were caught buttering there by the Park Police. Peace out.

I predict that he'll beat the rap by claiming to have Mad Cow Disease

So this is a variation on the "Twinkie defense?"

I dub thee, "Checkers Big Buford defense."

Ya gotta eat!

"An 18-year-old Northeast Washington woman was fatally shot last week after she refused to cook a hamburger for her alleged assailant" WAPO

Fatally shot last week? It took that long to break this story? Obviously that wouldn't be the case if it happened in Georgetown.

The thing about this that nobody is talking about is how badly the NRA and other racist republicans want incidents like this to happen. They want less education for inner cities and looser gun laws. It's like a sick and twisted form of genocide. Make them stupid and angry about how poor they are, then give them guns.

not that any form of genocide isn't sick and twisted . . . but you get what I mean.

I'm amazed at all you folks who get selected for jury duty. I've been summoned for jury duty maybe a half dozen times and I've never been selected to be on a jury. I wonder if it's because District prosecutors give in to the same kind of stupidity of alweis and just assume that: young Black man = not guilty vote.

Like clockwork, every year I'd get selected for jury duty in DC. And ever year, because I look like an psycho Korean liquor store owner, I'd get booted out of the jury pool.

The "Kill 'em All! Let God Sort Them Out!" teeshirt probably helped as well.

@Dreamcquence - "The thing about this that nobody is talking about is how badly the NRA and other racist republicans want incidents like this to happen. They want less education for inner cities and looser gun laws. It's like a sick and twisted form of genocide. Make them stupid and angry about how poor they are, then give them guns."
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I think you meant to post this on your conspiracy theorist blog. Because on any normal website people would just laugh at you, like I'm doing now.There is hardly any repulicans in DC and so I fuess you can only blame democrats for the failing schools if you are going to be purely political party about it. So Democrats must be racist because "They want less education for inner cities" and at least I can point to DC as proof even though I don't believe that statement. Care to back up yours?

As for the gun laws last I checked republicans were pushing for it everywhere because it is a silly little thing like a constitutional right. Plus I'm pretty sure black people were getting handguns well before 2 months ago when they became legal. to finish my swatting let me end with "personal responsibility". Look it up sometime.

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