November 21, 2008
Sasha and Malia to Sidwell Friends
The AP is reporting that Sasha and Malia Obama will attend Sidwell Friends School in Ward 3, near Tenleytown. Our clever commenters speculated that that would be their choice, thanks to its security-friendly setting. It was also the Clintons' pick for Chelsea. Some will be disappointed that the Obamas didn't pick a public school, but they've chosen the option that's "the best fit for what their daughters need right now." The City Paper and ABC News blog Political Punch are both reporting on the choice.
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Anyone complaining about the non-selection of a public school is being ridiculous. You don't put your childrens' lives at risk to make a point about education reform. That's like expecting Obama to move his family to Trinidad and turn the White House into section 8 housing.
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Silly wabbits...public school is for peons.
Choice for the intelligencia...orders for the masses.
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I love all the self-righteous people who think they should have gone to a public school as some sort of gimmick. They should go to wherever their parents see as the best education they will get, period. Nothing else should matter.
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The only quesion is why anyone would send their kids to DC schools? Feeding your kids into those ignorant-thug assembly lines is de facto child abuse.
Not having the money for decent schools isn't an excuse. Good schools don't require money (DC schools spend more money per-student than any state); good schools require a civilized community.
If you have kids in DC and can't afford private schools or home-schooling, move! Really, it's not hard. Just pack up and move! It's a big country.
And if you're worried about finding a job after you move, just learn Spanish. Seems like anyone who shows up in this country knowing Spanish can land a job, whereas native English speakers have greater difficulty getting off the unemployment couch.
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WestEnder, you sound sad... what gives. Sad monolingual disorder? Get beat up in a DC school this year?
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Yes. I'm sad to see all the human potential being squandered by entitled, incompetent DC schoolteachers, and their bureaucratic enablers in the administration.
A good school is a beautiful thing to behold. Bad schools just make me sad.
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Supposedly Obama's girls had slumber parties with Biden's granddaughter and so that's why they wanted to go to the same school, Sidwell Friends. It's good to see that they actually get a say in the decision.
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WestEnder's rhetoric may be harsh but he makes some good points.
Particularly about the moving.
My parents moved halfway across the country several times, to guarantee a better future for their kids. And they did this with virtually no money.
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WestEnder, do you actually have any idea what you're talking about? Sure, lots of the schools in DCPS are pretty bad, but some of them are really good. I went to Lafayette and Deal and I got a great education there.
Anyway. Sidwell is a great choice. I grew up at the Quaker meeting located on its lower school campus, and it's a really good facility.
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Actually, the lower school isn't in Tenley. It's in Bethesda.
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So we now have the first example of Saint Obama using "security" to justify a hypocritical decision. Dick Cheney is laughing in his bunker.
By the way, will Obama support vouchers for DC residents that Queen Eleanor rails against? Or are elite private schools only reserved for people who were bankrolled by Tony Rezko?
By the way, Rahm, baby, love the Metrocards! You learned a lot from your time in the Middle East! I expect the public billboards will be up soon? Who says a cult of personality is inconsisent with a democracy?
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hillvada:
what's wrong with you, person? Where do you get this shit? I swear I'm missing some sort of secret website that tells us all how it really is.... shill.
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The only quesion is why anyone would send their kids to DC schools? Feeding your kids into those ignorant-thug assembly lines is de facto child abuse.
What an amazingly dopey thing to say. WifeRat and I are in the middle of figuring out what to do with BabyRat when we get back from Fargo. Even though we were far from the mean streets of DC, we still ended up sending her to private school while we were in the MidWest. It had nothing to do with whether or not the public schools were any good, we made the best choice for our family. In this case, that meant sending our child to private school. Our decision wasn't a referendum on our feelings about public schools, but a reflection of our current circumstances.
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WestEnder's rhetoric may be harsh but he makes some good points.
Not really. Per capita spending figures are cooked in a variety of ways. For example, despite the fact that every classroom in Prince William County has multiple PCs with broadband internet access, spending on technology is *not* a part of their per capita spending figures. I'm not saying that DCPS doesn't have all the money it needs to do its job, but those numbers are largely bullshit.
I'm really sick of the barely concealed racism concerning DCPS here at DCist. Your little code words like "civilized" aren't fooling anyone. If you want to be a racist asshole then just go ahead and be a racist asshole.
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Here here Hillrat!
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I do not understand the perceived "hypocrisy" here. The Obamas are saying two things:
1. DC public schools are currently not good enough for our children.
2. Through the presidency, we want to help make all public schools, eventually, good enough.
What's the hypocrisy? How are these two statements incompatible? Without meaning to downplay the value of parent advocacy, it seems pretty obvious that the Obamas will have other avenues available to them to help improve the schools.
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I was public schooled and damned proud of it.
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Civilized? Codeword?
Are you really suggesting that DCPS isn't one of the best-funded school systems in the nation, but still turning out one of the lowest test score averages?
Here's a nice little WP article on some of the real costs of DCPS schools,comparing it even to the best private schools.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/04/AR2008040402921.html
http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2008/04/07/the-real-cost-of-public-schools/
I never said all DCPS schools suck. I said that far too many of them do.
This lovely statistic, from the GAO.
"In 2007, D.C. public schools ranked last in math
scores and second-to-last in reading scores for all tested urban public
school systems on the National Assessment of Educational Progress
(NAEP)."
http://www.gao.gov/htext/d08549t.html
Pointing this out is not racist. In fact, some would say that enabling the status quo by calling those that point out DCPS's faults racist is far more detrimental to black kids in DC than any hyperbole or racism, imagined or real, from nonblacks, including DCist posters.
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I definitely understand why anyone, including Obama, needs to make the best possible choice for their children. However, that does not mean this wasn't an opportunity lost on his part to send a strong message. It's just one tiny little chip in the veneer of his image, and there will be more to come as people try to wrangle with his personal decisions and justify his need to appoint DC insiders to accomplish his Change agenda. I think the honeymoon will be fairly short lived.
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Are you really suggesting that DCPS isn't one of the best-funded school systems in the nation, but still turning out one of the lowest test score averages?
Um, no. I made a point of saying, "I'm not saying that DCPS doesn't have all the money it needs to do its job, but those numbers are largely bullshit." and I stand by that statement.
As for the rest of your post, I've given up on you and your weird myopia about Black people. Whether you want to admit it or not, you have a lot of hostility towards Black people and it's really quite ugly.
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So you acknowledge that test scores in DC are abysmal (by and large, with exceptions) and that many DC schools are broken-down, filled with violence, and dysfunctional, yet anyone that mentions this or take their kids out of that are racist(except I guess the many black people that do this)?
So it's ok if I say this or do this if I'm black, but if I'm white I'm racist for doing it?
Name one thing I've said about DCPS that isn't true.
I don't have hostility toward black people. I have hostility toward con artists, lazy fucks feeding off my tax dollars, and the general 'me first, taxpayers last' mentality that ran the school system into the ground. Sortof the same hostility I have toward most of the Bush regime which I have to note has damn few black people involved. Unless you count Colin Powell, who was actually one of the good guys until he was hoodwinked and used. And even though Condi Rice is a big giant liar and has caused us great problems abroad, I'll still say nice things about those dominatrix boots of hers.
I'd feel exactly the same if DCPS were a white-run district, or run by Mexicans, or Martians, or gay Mormons on meth, or giant squirrels, whether black, brown, or albino.
I just feel that I have a right to call bullshit, incompetence, and waste when I see it, regardless of who is doing it. Calling me racist doesn't shut me up like it does so many. Or at least has in years past.
Sadly, people's unwillingness to call out bullshit on DCPS or try to help fix the system is in large part because of reactions like yours - we get called racist.
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"However, that does not mean this wasn't an opportunity lost on his part to send a strong message. "
Send what message? That he's willing to risk the safety of his kids to 'send a message'?
These are not ordinary kids. They are the children of the nation's first black president (no, Clinton doesn't count).
And we are at war.
And thanks to our last fucktard president 90% of the world hates us now. Not just a little. A lot. A crapton of them hate us enough to do really crazy things, including mess with innocent kids.
And a surprising number of Americans think Obama is an evil Muslim.
A lot of people are saying 'off record' that the number of death threats against Obama and family are unprecedented. Sure, most are nutjobs. But nutjobs aren't harmless. Just ask Jodi Foster. Or Yoko Ono.
Security has to be the first concern, and Sidwell Friends has decades of experience at dealing with high-target kids.
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I wouldn't send my dirty socks to DC public schools.
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There are very good DCPS schools.
Ones that get along quite well without your unlaundered hosiery, thank you.
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I don't understand how girls that young are going to the upper school in DC and not the lower school in Bethesda. Aren't they in elementary school?
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Comparing the amount of money DC spends per student to how much any state spends per student is completely ridiculous. Unless you are adjusting for the differences in cost of living and the general expense differences that go into running a school in an urban environment to running a school in a rural or suburban environment, you aren't really making a valid comparison. I'm willing to bet that it costs more money to educate a student in nyc than it does in upstate ny, for example. That being said, I agree with hillman.
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Even adjusting for cost of living, when you compare DC public schools to other urban school districts like LA, Chicago, or NYC, DC still spends more per student and consistenly scores in the bottom 5 percentile. It's not a factor overall expenditures; the majority of those costs are eaten up by court-mandated private schooling for special education students. DC taxpayers are basically paying for a third of the public school kids to go to private schools. They're not spending $15k per student; they're spending $12k per special ed student, $2k on the non-special-ed students, and $1k goes in the pocket of the DCPS HQ admin's Cayman Island Offshore holding company. If DCPS had a functioning special ed program, those costs might be substantially lower, assuming they didn't f**k it up eight ways to Sunday, which is how they got in this overpriced hot tranny mess in the first place. Maybe!
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checkerspot, Sasha will be going to the middle school in Tenley and Malia will be going to the lower school in Bethesda. The lower school ends at 4th grade.
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WestEnder:
You say learn Spanish to find a job, because native English speakers just can't seem to cut a break in the job market. Perhaps it's that they won't seem to get off their high horses about not doing menial labor.
It's not that immigrants are all stealing jobs that belong to American citizens. Rather, they are often taking jobs Americans refuse to do. Finding employment is about taking whatever job is available, not sitting around waiting for one that you deem good enough.
These "native English speakers have greater difficulty getting off the unemployment couch" would have no greater difficulty if they chose a less-than-ideal job over no job at all.