this is sort of really happening tomorrow,

although it's almost assured of going no further than merely appearing on Friday's court meeting schedule

You got it right the second time. The petition was distributed at conference but that could be said of untold numbers of petitions that are also denied without comment. Sorry, crazies!

Oh lord, another proud moment for Alan Keyes and Justice Thomas.

I'm pretty sure it's not teeth they lack.

As it is, he's just engaging in the kind of obstruction that he criticized the Bush administration for.

When you hold up a hoop, and demand that someone jump through it even though they are not in any way required to do so, it does not mean that they are "engaging in obstruction" when they refuse to follow your commands.

The fact that you can equate Bush administration obfuscations that resulted in years of war and the torture of suspects in custody to Obama's "failure" to release multiple versions of his birth certificate just shows how out of whack your perspective on this issue is. The fact that no one has ever presented a shred of credible evidence that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii just adds an extra level of absurdity to your whole complaint.

Obama's "Certification of Live Birth" was indeed an official document, however it isn't an official "Certificate of Live Birth". The document the Obama campaign has circulated, regardless of arguments about its veracity, can be obtained by any Hawaiian parent who has a child born outside the country within the previous year. Also, Hawaiian officials in a very carefully worded statement did confirm they have Obama's official birth certificate on record although those officials never confirmed it states he was born in Hawaii, only that they are in possession of it. Strange. It would cost $14 to get a copy of it to end this question once and for all, yet Obama has spent upwards of $800,000 trying to prevent its release. Why not just release it?

Right from the start of his campaign, Obama was very good about staying on topic and not getting defensive whenever the Right Wing Spin Machine would throw some wacky accusation his way. You justify the doubters be even addressing these "issues".

Read about this & it came up earlier. However, in Islands of Hawaii, Anyone can bring Birth Certificate from any nation & recieve substitute birth certificate from Hawaii. Hawaii is very technical, yet obsessed with native origin, so long term peoples from elsewhere, often asia, use that to incorporate themselves more closely with local peoples.

In Hon Barack Obama Esq case, birth certificate was Fax'd to investigator, yet it was illegible. So public health unit of birth records checked & confirmed there is birth certificate, yet will NOT release details of that certificate to Anyone.

Worse, Hon Barack obama Esq grand Mother stated that Brack was born in Kenya & so do other direct relatives. I believe true mother is No longer available.

So its good case & probably true, yet how to break thru all that Haze.

Signed:PHYSICIAN THOMAS STEWART VON DRASHEK M.D.

It's true, there are plenty of Kenyans that very proudly proclaim that "of course" Obama was born there. Including some of his relatives. But I don't think anyone outside of Kenya has ever claimed that is true, even the conspiracy theorists usually pick Indonesia as his "real" place of birth.

Check out this site for some rants on this topic and many more (chemtrails, anyone?)

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/

James Orleans, when you say "being just a 'citizen' doesn't qualify you for the Presidency," I believe the phrasing for which you're searching is "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

From what I can tell, the definition of "natural born Citizen" is debatable. There have been several presidential would-be nominees and candidates born to US parents outside of the US proper. For example, George Romney, who was born in Mexico and John McCain, who was born in the Panama Canal zone.

honest to christ, this is amazing. these people just can't believe that the american people would vote for a competent man of african heritage. unreal.

The Certification of Live Birth says unequivocally that Obama was born in Honolulu. This is silly.

More here:

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

James,

Can you please provide a cite to applicable law that the certification is not an official document? The Certification itself contains a legend which reads, "This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding." The Certification cites Hawaii Revised Statutes s 338-13(b) and 338-19, which seem to support the legend.

The fact that the record was acknowledged to exist but will not be disclosed is reason enough for people to get up and arms and start spinning conspiracy theories. The fact that it would be so easy to disprove the allegations, and yet it has not happened, creates the appearance of wrongdoing, whether true or not. And the burden of proof of citizenship is on him, not on everyone else to prove otherwise, as is suggested above by several commenters.

"Worse, Hon Barack obama Esq grand Mother stated that Brack was born in Kenya"
That statement was made over a phone call with a rightwing wackjob. There were two interpreters on the line; the wackjob asked Grandma if she was "present" at his birth, and one of the interpreters said she was. The wackjob then asked if he was born in Kenya, and the interpreters and Grandma realized they had misunderstood the earlier question and told him unequivocally that Obama was born in Hawaii. The wackjob was recording the conversation, and chose to only release the first part of the tape. Because he's a fucking wackjob.

Alan Keyes and Clarence Thomas? Black on black crime in this city is out of control. Eff voting rights, we need a Stop Snitchin' amendment like yesterday.

The same people who think the government had something to do with 9/11 are calling these conspiracy theorists wackos ... I love it! Hypocracy at it's best.

Holy crap, DCIST is getting Freeped!

WHY ISNT THE MSM COVERING THIS?!?!11111

can you promise not to bait for trolls anymore, dcist? the freepers are scaring the kids...