December 5, 2008
Dept. of Public Works Adds Insult...Actually More Injury to Injury
ABC7 has the cringeworthy story of Chris and Mike Thompson, whose $70,000 Audi was vandalized on Thanksgiving Day. The entire wheel set was stolen from the car, which was left on the street on cinder blocks. The Thompson's filed a police report and were waiting for replacement wheels to fix the car, when, instead, the Department of Public Works sent a tow truck to literally drag the car — with the cinder blocks still underneath — to the impound lot. They were given a $250 ticket and paid another $120 to get the car back, now with over $20,000 in damage. The livid couple could only say, "They couldn't of run our tags, they couldn't of found us. They didn't try anything." Ugh.
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Jebus, doesn't WJLA have any editors with a basic knowledge of grammar? It's "couldn't have" not "couldn't of," no matter how the woman pronounced it, and generally one ends questions with an actual question mark.
Pretty ridiculous situation, overall. This is what happens when city agencies, and neighbors, don't bother to actually communicate with one another.
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Not to get all grammar-y and off topic, but couldn't of? Has it come to this WJLA?
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Of course, a car on blocks poses a potentially very unsafe hazard. A car up on blocks needs to be remedied right away. Did the Miller's leave a note on the window? on the dash? Did the Miller's immediately call a tow truck to have the safety hazard remediated? Not sure I'm with the Miller's on this one...
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The DPW towtruck drivers must have been totally high when they did this. They're like, "Dude, no wheels, man" and the other guy's like, "Dude, there'll be so many sparks dude. We gotta do this!" So they do a couple more bong hits and put on "Come Sail Away" and torque up the crane and drag the car and the cinder blocks down the street to the impound lot with their heads out the window yelling, "WOOOOOOO! WOOOOOOOO!" And when they get to the impound lot they bang on the trailer door and they're like, "Dave! Open up!" and the guy behind the door's like, "Dave's not here, man."
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I don't see the travesty of justice here. You can't leave a vandalized, obviously inoperable car on a public street while "waiting for repairs". That is why they made mechanic shops. Now maybe if all this happened less that 24 hours between the time of the discovery of the vehicle, and the time the vehicle was towed, I might have some sympathy, but much longer than that, I would have to say that the vehicle owners needed to get on the ball.
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Having seen this occur in front of my old place (U Street/10th area), it is MUCH more dangerous to drag the car off in this manner than to do some research. If you are imagining that they dragged it up onto a bed of a truck with no wheels, you'd be wrong. In our case, they dragged it off on its frame, down the street, with the car just weaving erratically behind the truck nearly swiping the others cars (my own included) and leaving a heavy hail of sparks and the scent of burning metal, and a trail of broken parts to wash off into the CSOs.
Ain't no way this was the best answer, even assuming it's not ideal to have a car up on blocks in the street. At the least, running the tags would have been a good idea, then tell the owners to deal with it, pronto. The cost is on the owners (and their insurance, presumably) instead of on DC taxpayers. Now we all get to pay our fair share of their $20K loss.
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This is complete bullshit. They went through the necessary avenues. They were taking action and some fucking asshole decides to destroy their car. Someone should be held accountable.. Someone should changed with destruction of property and put in jail. I'm sick and tired of DPW doing whatever the fuck they want too.
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What exactly should the owners do?? They had the police report, they were waiting for the parts to come in. You think the correct response was to drag the car onto a tow truck WITHOUT wheels??
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one more thing as per the ABC story...I hate asshole neighbors who do stupid shit and just cause a ton of problems for people. Like, couldn't she have walked over to the house and asked what was going on with the car. No, she calls and gets it towed. WTF
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2 HUGE grammar mistakes...."couldn't of" and "haven't been able to get in touch with anyone other then a...." Seriously, what kind of writer gets a job with that kind of grammar?
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I'm not with the "victim" here. Unfortunately for them, you can't just leave an inoperable car on a public street with it sitting on cinder blocks. What'd they expect would happen? Stop whining-- they (or their insurance co.) should have paid to have it towed somewhere for storage.
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whether it should have been towed or not, it's pretty obvious that if it should have been towed, it should have been towed. Not dragged along the street. Even if somebodies property is occupying a place illegally, the government does not have the right to vandalize it.
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if you regularly park a $70k car on the streets of DC, don't cry when this kinda stuff happens to you.
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It should not have been towed; it should have been put on a wrecker. I don't feel bad about DPW taking the car, since it clearly looked like a wreck. However, their manner of hoisting it on cinderblocks and dragging it down the street is simply mind-bogglingly stupid. They - or rather DC taxpayers - just bought that couple a new car. Total, absolute stupidity by the DPW tow truck operator.
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OK - so the couple shouldn't have left the car on the street for 5 days, but towing a car without wheels is ridiculous!
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They should have just eaten a Mentos and persuaded four beefy European guys to pick up the car and move it to a safe place.
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hahaha...that actually sounds really funny...car scraping down the street, sparks flying all over the damn place. having a car in this city sure can suck! :-)
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maybe the real lesson here is, if you own a $70k car, buy some $15 wheel locks for it.
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Oh, forgot to mention it this morning.
I've got tires and rims for sale. Audi rims. Lots of tread left on the tires. Like new.
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This is completely asinine, but typical of D.C. services. Are D.C. government employees retarded, or incompetent, or both? I don't care how much the car cost - I would be fuming if they did this with my $4k, 10-year old VW. How about running the f*king plates before you literally drag the car away?
The owners were waiting for a new set of wheels, not any kind of mechanical repair. It takes less than 10 minutes to bolt a set of wheels onto a car, and you know the thieves managed to remove the old set in less than that.
You can get a set of 4 steel wheels with tires for $200, but thanks to the intervention of D.C. government the owners are looking at the bill for 100x that amount.
They should sue. And they'll win. I should call up the owners and offer to represent them for free.
On a side note, who parks ANY car in D.C. without decent wheel locks? I suggest Gorilla wheel locks. A $30 set is all you need to keep your wheels and tires where they should be.
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Not to judge, but hard to feel sorry for anything auto related that happens to someone who drops 70K for a car (and odd that was reported, relevant?). But since it was I am sure their insurance will pick it up, it is us taxpayers that will somehow get f*cked by this when they sue.
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Isn't this the same city that paved around a parked car on Pennsylvania Ave SE because they couldn't figure out a way to get it towed away during the week that the repaving was being done?
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Yet more evidence that the aristocracy will never get justice in this town. Did you hear about the dude who got his pants ruined by the dry cleaner and sued for $67 million and had his case thrown out?
But then my ghetto side is like:
If I were their neighbor, I'd grab a beer, pull up a chair, and take in the spectacle. I might even chat it up with the tow truck driver.
In fact, I would ask the tow truck driver how I could get a job like his, so I could do such a thing on my last day of work.
I guess I am incapable of feeling sympathy towards anyone who thinks it is necessary own a $70k car while living in DC.
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This is definitely one of those "only in DC" stories. Because only in DC would this kind of blatant, forehead-slapping stupidity actually happen. And maybe in Police Academy movies.
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if you watch the news video, they only dragged the car onto a flatbed truck and then drove away. so i think all the hysterics about DC public works running wild down the streets with a wheel-less car in tow are blown way outta proportion.
zero sympathy from me on this one and they have zero grounds for a case. someone should throw a set of wheel locks at the family and say 'super size it, b*tch!'
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Since when does the victim have to be sympathetic? If it was a delipadated old hoopdie (which is was in the case I saw), wouldn't we be saying, aw well, at least the car was worth nothing?
That misses the point. The point is that this is an asinine thing to even consider doing, regardless of if the car is right, wrong, red, blue, cheap, expensive, yada yada.
It's accepting the District's aspirations fo mediocrity to blame them for having a nice car or for not moving it themselves. We don't owe DPW any excuses... you just don't tow a car with no wheels. Why do any of us even have to point that out?
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Um... to the people bashing the grammar of "couldn't of"... its a quote, people! They, as a news agency, have to quote people directly, bad grammar and all.
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"I guess I am incapable of feeling sympathy towards anyone who thinks it is necessary own a $70k car while living in DC."
Chances are that wealthy couple is paying for a shit-ton of city services that you are using, so I'm not so sure I'd be so pissy about it.
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According to the television report (and everything on TV is true), the couple left a copy of the police report on the vehicle and they checked with police after filing the report (presumeably to make sure it was ok to leave the car).
If that's the case, at a bare minimum you try to contact the owners before trashing their car with such stupidity.
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kken:
I don't know if it's hysterics, but I'll take credit for the visual image... because, yeah, I have seen it. Only for about 2 blocks, before they turned left on U Street, but they really did just drag a car off. Maybe they had another truck around the block to put it on? I don't know, but I have seen, with mine own eyes, a clunker hauled down the street screaming sparks and metal (back in 2005, so a while ago). Also, the one I saw had been parked for over a month had all it's windows lost, and was a temporary housing for our local homeless guy. Maybe this car should be considered lucky?
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DPW was way out of line here. Standard operating procedure dictates that tow truck operators first take a massive dump in the backseat of said abandoned car before towing it. Someone's $15k annual bonus is serious in jeopardy.
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kken: zero sympathy from me on this one and they have zero grounds for a case.
I can think of at least two grounds right off the top of my head: Bailment theory and negligence.
Besides, the theft of the wheels and the towing involve different parties and are legally unrelated.
And I hate all of this talk about how they should not have had such an expensive car in D.C. Personally I see no point in owning a nice car unless you live in Germany and can drive on the Autobahnen, but is our city really so bad that it's considered unwise to own nice things here?
The act of stealing the wheels off a $100k car is no different from stealing the wheels off a $1k car: both are morally reprehensible. ell, I guess technically one is grand larceny and the other just larceny, but still...
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yeah but i bet even the guy who owns the $1k car has wheel locks on that junks...
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"Chances are that wealthy couple is paying for a shit-ton of city services that you are using, so I'm not so sure I'd be so pissy about it."
I reserve my right to be pissy because chances are they're not subsidizing me in any way.
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"And I hate all of this talk about how they should not have had such an expensive car in D.C."
But, don't you know that all the free shit we get in DC - the fire and police, the roads, social services, libraries, etc., and all the other stuff that make up our multi-billion dollar budget - are funded exclusively with the taxes of the very poor and the U Street area hipsters / cyclists?
Damn those rich people, especially when they are paying for stuff for the rest of us.
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Who on earth would you leave their 70K car on blocks on a public street for 5 days? The owners should have had insurance take the car to a secure lot rather than leaving it on public streets. Sux that their car was vandalized, but why should the general public be put at risk?
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It is immaterial whether the wheels were stolen, or if the owners removed the wheels themselves, once they had knowledge that their vehicle was in a dangerous, inoperable condition, the owners had the responsibilty to move the vehicle to a location where it would not be a public hazard. Putting a police report in the window does not absolve you of this responsibility. I don't think the government did anything wrong here, from the sound of it.
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deery said it right.
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I don't see how an S4 can add up to $70,000!? An RS4, yes, but not an S4.
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Some day I'm going to buy a real nice German car, and a German villa to park it in.
I'm secure enough in my manhood that i don't need a car that can go 155mph in a country where the maximum speed limit is 75mph.
/has driven an Audi on the autobahns
//and Mercedes-Benz, but honestly the Audi drove better.
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The damage is inexcusable.
If you are going to tow a vehicle like that you use a tow dolly, which essentially 'roller skates' the vehicle up onto the tow truck.
It's a simple procedure. Standard for tow truck operators.
You don't just drag it.
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hey sticks when people pronounce something couldn't of or shouldn't of, they're not being ignorant. they're actually saying couldn't've thus couldn't have whoever wrote & proofed that piece needs a new job (or incidentally, is just perfectly suited for wtop and a story of that caliber).
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I can't decide which is more fucked up, leaving a $70,000 car parked on the street in D.C., or DPW totally trashing the thing. I mean, unless their priorities are all out of whack, which could totally be the case when it comes to a car, you'd think they could afford off-street parking for it.
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Thanks you to Comments 7 and 35 for brightening my day - I fully agree with both.
Its interesting to see how many people think that because someone is "rich" that it is OK that something bad happens to them. Perhaps it was Robin Hood and not the DPW who took the car away?
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downtown rez: deery said it right.
No, deery got it wrong. The owners may have been wrong to leave the car on the street for five days, but once the tow company began moving the car they had a duty to use reasonable car under the circumstances. Not doing so makes the tow company negligent, and liable for damages.
Say for example you are parked in front of a fire hydrant, and the city decides to tow your car. Suppose the tow truck driver forgets to tie down the car and on the way to the impound lot the car comes loose and rolls into the Potomac.
The owner must pay the fee for parking illegally, but the tow truck driver, being negligent, is liable for the cost of damages to the car.
Once the tow truck driver takes action to tow the vehicle, he or she has a duty not to royally fark it up.
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HCE - Not everybody has offstreet parking, no matter how nice a car they have.
Or maybe since it was Thanksgiving morning they were letting guests use their offstreet parking.
Or maybe their garage was turned into their sex dungeon years ago.
Who knows.
The point is we should be able to park any damn car we want on the street.
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Again, we are working with limited info here.
But according to the video, the owners contacted both their insurance company and the police. It's reasonable to assume that they did what the police and their insurance company told them to do.
The video itself is pretty dramatic. They've got the actual tow.
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"The owner must pay the fee for parking illegally, but the tow truck driver, being negligent, is liable for the cost of damages to the car."
I'd argue that the owners left (abandoned) the vehicle in a condition that made it to hazardous to leave on the street, and unreasonably difficult to tow.
But that's for the courts, I guess. Hey- maybe there'll be a line-item in the next budget for a crane! Their (and Hillamn's!) tax dollars at work!
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Is it possible the tower dragged the car off without wheels out of spite precisely BECAUSE it was an expensive car?
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"I'd argue that the owners left (abandoned) the vehicle in a condition that made it to hazardous to leave on the street, and unreasonably difficult to tow."
Simply not true. Any tow truck operator worth a damn knows how to use a tow dolly.
There was nothing unreasonably or even remotely difficult about it.
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"There was nothing unreasonably or even remotely difficult about it." I suppose. Did you catch the contractor's name on the side of the truck? I wonder what kind of liability they have.
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The moral of the story is: Get to know your friggin' neighbors so they don't pull this kinda crap on you when your car is on blocks. I'm not saying the neighbor is a bad guy for reporting the car. I'm just saying it probably wouldn't have happened if he and the car owners had met once or twice before.
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the police gave them the go ahead to leave their car. End of story. The city must be held accountable for the actions of their dumbass employees.
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Modern cinderblocks are actually not strong enough to hold up a car for very long. The old-style blocks, which were cast from solid concrete could do the job, but the new ones, which are more processed and not very solid won't.
If I owned a $70,000 car, and the wheels were stolen, I would either a) go to Autozone and buy four jackstands to hold it up, or b), knowing that all of this would eventually be covered by my insurance, hire a commercial vehicle towing company to come and lift my car onto a flatbed.
Come to think of it, I would do this for my car, which is probably worth about $69,000 less then the car in this story.
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It's not stupid to have a nice car in DC, the city is full of nice cars- and rich people too go figure- zwoinks. I think the comment some are making is that it is hard to care what happens to a 70K car, because that person obviously had enough money to deal with it. Whereas if this happened to a working mom with a 10K car, her insurance premium may mean no rent this month, or she could be a smart shopper and have 2.3M in the bank, who the f*ck cares. That is neither here nor there, aside from the ability to generate sympathy. And I second my question of why the hell the news quoted the estimated price of the car anyway?
I am also sad to learn that if my car gets jacked up, no rims and all, I can't leave it on the street for over a week while I get it straightened out? Even with a zone sticker? Owning a car is already enough of pain in the ass considering that if your registration is late you get a ticket every day until it is renewed, meanwhile in the burbs you can drive for weeks and as long as you don't get pulled over. On blocks Dangerous? That is a way of life, not knocking over barefoot cars and all. Those thieves left the blocks nice and horizontal so that car wasn't going anywhere. Meanwhile on other streets, cars are left in the middle of the shoulder for a month with no wheels, hood, open trunk, a family of CHUD living in the glove box.
I call pissed off jealous neighbors ratting them out.
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"Get to know your friggin' neighbors so they don't pull this kinda crap on you when your car is on blocks."
I found that a little odd. Usually everyone knows when a neighbor drives a $70,000 car.
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"I reserve my right to be pissy because chances are they're not subsidizing me in any way."
I never meant to imply that they personally cashed your welfare checks.
But that 'aristocracy' you are so quick to be snarky about kept this city afloat for as long as pretty much most of us can remember.
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I found that a little odd. Usually everyone knows when a neighbor drives a $70,000 car.
Good point. I don't really know one of my neighbors, but I do know he owns two pricey cars, one of which easily costs $85,000+.
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You don't change anything in a quote block - otherwise its not a quote. Plain and simple.
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You don't change anything in a quote block - otherwise its not a quote.
So then your position is that the car owner WROTE those sentences and sent them to the station, which only copied them over, word for word? Oh yeah, that's plausible . . .
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"The point is we should be able to park any damn car we want on the street."
In an ideal world, yes, but if you have something really nice, chances are, especially around here, that somebody's going to f with it if you leave it lying around. I guess if I had a $70,000 car, I'd probably go to great lengths to find a safe place to keep it.
Then again, if I could afford a $70,000, maybe I'd also be able to afford not to give a damn if something like this happened to it. More an inconvenience than anything else, at this point.
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@sticks: "Um... to the people bashing the grammar of "couldn't of"... its a quote, people! They, as a news agency, have to quote people directly, bad grammar and all."
"Couldn't've" and "couldn't of" sound largely the same. When in doubt, you would use the correct spelling so as not to inaccurately assign ignorance to the interviewee.
Is it the law that you can't leave an inoperable car parked on a public street?
Maybe when they talked to the police officer and said "do we have to get it towed right away" the officer said no, meaning, it could stay there for a day or so while they arranged a tow or got the wheels put on quickly. Not "no, it can stay on the street forever up on blocks."
What time limit would you suggest is appropriate to leave a broken down car on the street? A week? A month? A year?
How competitive is parking on that block?
Maybe the neighbors aren't jealous, they're reacting to a "make an exception for me I have a nice car" entitlement attitude.
All that factors in to whether the neighbors are going to call and ask for the car to be towed, if that is even what happened. A car up on blocks is an obvious easy call for a ticket or tow for parking enforcement.
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i think it's perfectly acceptable to be snarky about capital hill aristocracy getting their hooptie jacked up because it ended up in the NEWS. had this happened to some family car worth $500 in SE, NONE of you would be giving two spits about it and you certainly wouldn't see action news team ron burgundy out there filming it.
i find it hilarious you think tow operators should take the time to buff your finish and wash the white walls on the tires before gently towing your car away. they had the courtesy to drag it onto a freaking flatbed and haul it away. tow dolly? man this ain't the suburbs.
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1. Comments about the value of the car being relevant are asinine and blame the victim.
2. I suspect that city law makes it illegal to have an inoperable vehicle on the street. Why it became inoperable, by crime or not, is irrelevant. The owners of the car were idiotic to think that a police report somehow exempted them from being responsible for their vehicle.
3. I'd expect a lawsuit over how the car was inappropriately towed. I'm with the earlier poster re: bailment and negligence.
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$70,000 Audi S4... wow. Looks like not only did thieves rip her off (her wheels) and the city rip her off (towing and damaging the car) but she paid $20,000 over MSRP for the car!
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