DCist: Obama Birth Certificate Protest at SCOTUS

monkeyrotica

Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:18:23 -0500

He has had most of his certificates and documents sealed. What is he hiding? Good question. The phrase "from people like you" comes to mind. And he's not a Marxist. He's a Marxist-Lenninist. There's a difference. Just ask Lee Harvey Oswald. IF YOU CAN FIND HIM.

IMGoph

Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:09:18 -0500

are the crazies still posting to this thread?

AntonioSosa

Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:25:16 -0500

Instead of submitting the long certificate of birth showing the hospital where he was born, Obama submits a certificate people who have not been born in the U.S. can produce. Obama's sister, for example, born in Indonesia, has such a certificate. To be president, Obama has to be born in the U.S. No hospital in Hawaii has records of his mother being there when Obama was born, and Obama has paid about $800,000 to THREE law firms to defend him from this issue when all he had to do is show his birth certificate showing where he was born. He has had most of his certificates and documents sealed. What is he hiding? As his Marxist peers in Latin America (Castro, Chavez, Morales, Correa, Ortega), Obama seems to believe he is above the Constitution and does not have to meet Constitutional requirements to be President. The fact that he was able to brainwash millions with a conniving and expensive campaign does not mean that he meets Constitutional requirements. Americans were FOOLED. Almost everything about Obama is FAKE, including possibly his birth certificate. The Obama image was manufactured by a very expensive campaign, financed with hundreds of millions of dollars. Many of those millions were donated by U.S. enemies such as George Soros. As his parents, mentors, relatives, friends and associates, Obama is a Marxist who hates America. He not only associated with them. He worked, conspired and collaborated with them. Many Americans turned out to be as clueless as the most ignorant Venezuelans, Bolivians and Ecuadorians who believed in CHANGE and YES WE CAN and now see that CHANGE means change toward Marxism, loss of freedom and rights, and greater poverty, despair and corruption. And YES WE CAN means Marxists CAN fool people. It seems Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov was right when he warned that, through media manipulation, Americans would be brainwashed and would allow their country to be taken over by Marxists: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwlBt1 If Obama does not have a legitimate U.S. birth certificate, he does not have the right to be U.S. President. Americans have the right to be protected from Marxists planted by U.S. enemies to destroy us.

anonymous troll

Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:01:43 -0500

You people are fucking ridiculous. The certification of birth produced by the State of Hawaii says that he was born in Honolulu on August 4th. The DOH confirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii. Yes, that he was born in Hawaii. There was a fucking birth announcement in the newspaper. The FBI was in charge of running the background check on him, and I trust their ability to figure these things out more than I trust the conspiracy-cracking skills of some random jackass with a political axe to grind. I don't give a shit about the dual citizenship thing. There's nothing in the Constitution about someone being ineligible for the Presidency because of dual citizenship. I don't give a shit about the Certification of Birth versus the Certification of Live Birth nonsense. If you're at the point where you're looking up Hawaiian birth registration law from 1961, you've officially gone pathetic.

thalightguy

Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:49:35 -0500

The U.S. Supreme Court did not give a reason for denying the Donfrio case. If they did not think the natural born/dual citizenship was an issue why then did they not just deny Cort Wrotnowski aplication as well? It has been DISTRIBUTED for Conference on December 12, 2008. The case is based on the same theory. http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a469.htm You can read more on the matter at Donofrio's blog at: http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

cactus jack

Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:40:05 -0500

downtown rez: +1 tinfoil hat

downtown rez

Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:21:31 -0500

That's just a copy of the denial. Why won't you release the original? WHAT ARE YOU HIDING!!!

cactus jack

Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:16:43 -0500

Donofrio petition denied, without comment by the Court.

EdTheRed

Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:43:16 -0500

Cert denied...although I'm CERT-ain that the New Crazy Boogie Express will keep on keeping on: Please don't dominate the rap, Jack If you got nothing new to say And if you please, don't back up the track This train got to run today I spent a little time on the interweb Spent a little time on some pills Some Freepers say better run away Others say better stand still Now I don't know, but the PUMAs say Obama was born out Kenya way Other hand I still suspect He's the love child of Malcolm X One way or another One way or another One way or another This crazy got to FAIL One way or another One way or another One way or another This crazy got to FAIL

cucarachita

Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:38:08 -0500

Well, if McCain got through even though he was born in Panama, I don't see why Obama couldn't get through if it turned out he also was an out of state birth. You can't have one standard for one, and another for the other. The McCain decision has set a precedent.

downtown rez

Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:01:32 -0500

Robeast: Close, but he's actually the thawed-from-cyrogenic freezing love-child of Paul Wellstone, Samuel Gompers, and Malcome X. See, Sec of State Clinton is really a mad scientist, and...

Dirk

Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:41:54 -0500

First!

Robeast

Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:47:17 -0500

I voted FOR Obama specifically because of this issue. I believe he was "born" at Cobra Headquarters, a sort of super-clone made up of the combined DNA of the world's greatest Marxists: Karl Marx himself. Joseph Stalin. Vladimir Lenin. Leon Trotsky. Herbie Hancock. Bow your heads before Serpentobama!

cooter

Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:38:29 -0500

No, tinkerthinker. Common sense tells you not to make any substantive reponses to nutjobs.

tinkerthinker

Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:09:49 -0500

I want to know the truth! I thought it was kooky too until Obama refused to release his Official Birth Certificate and instead hired lawyers to keep it hidden. That fact alone makes me wonder that it may be true that he is ineligible. And the only way to know the truth is for the court to see the Birth Certificate. I thought that was just common sense.

downtown rez

Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:51:02 -0500

I'll shake your hand and share the land- on the day that chocolate-covered freepers become widely recognized as tasty-snacks. Guess who? ;)

IMGoph

Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:57:49 -0500

i would like to dip all the freepers who showed up here in chocolate, downtown rez. then we could tie them to a fire ant hill and let the wee beasties enjoy the sweet, sweet dipped dipshits.

cooter

Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:38:04 -0500

johnadams, that page doesn't say why the certification isn't sufficient to show that one is a natural born citizen. Also, your $10 argument is specious. It would cost absolutely nothing for John McCain to show me his cock, but I still wouldn't expect him to do it.

johnadams

Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:33:38 -0500

Here is a cite to a Hawaii site that shows how to fill out the form and obtain a legitimate birth certificate. It even has a sample form filled out to request a birth certificate, and it also discusses why a Certification of Live Birth, similar to what Obama produced is not sufficient. Applicable pages are 7-9: http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/Loaa%20Ka%20Aina%20Hoopulapula.pdf If someone forwards this to Obama I will chip in the $10.00 as he seems to have trouble either filling out the form or coming up with the money. Obama has been stalling on this for over a year. This issue needs to be answered fully and transparently, just like Obama has been promising.

downtown rez

Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:10:07 -0500

IMGoph- You may be a churro, but you're not chocolate. And churros y chocolate must never mix, lest we all descend into tasty food-coma induced oblivion, leaving us unprepared for the forthcoming Al Queda invasion. I just read on the internets that this will be spear-headed AT THE INAUGURATION by Fleet-Footed Kenyan runners clad in shoes BOUGHT AT OUR MAYOR'S OWN FAMILY STORE!!!! The MAYOR'S FATHER IS PANAMANIAN! JUST LIKE MCCAIN!!!) and brought nigh to END OF TIMES. Oh, yeah, and gay marriage will be the law of the land, and Israel will fall, too. But whatever about those things.

Deep

Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:09:57 -0500

Rj just by bringing up the end of this thread means it will never end. Mha ha ha!

schvenzlerman

Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:07:55 -0500

The only substantive question raised in the Donofrio v. Wells lawsuit is whether a person born with dual citizenship is eligible under the Constitution to be President. Obama has freely acknowledged that he was so born (U.S. and U.K.). That's the issue at play here.

blittle

Sat, 06 Dec 2008 07:36:21 -0500

@JeanQPublique It's because you didn't turn off the underline tag. But that's okay, I thought it gave your crazy rant that extra crazy it needed.

thalightguy

Sat, 06 Dec 2008 07:32:11 -0500

First of all, The title to your story is very misleading. The Donofrio's case has nothing to do with the whole birth certificate thing. Fact: We know that the Framers recognized a difference between US citizens and natural born citizens. We don’t need to look FOR the definition of natural born citizen. We need to be looking AT the definition of a US citizen (which would be what is required to serve as Senator or Representative but isn’t quite enough to let one serve as President). 14th Amendment: Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. This gives the SAME type of citizenship to those who are either: 1. BORN in the United States OR 2. NATURALIZED in the United States Either could serve in the Senate or House but NEITHER can serve as President because they are only citizens. Not natural born citizens. They receive the same type of citizenship in different ways. A child BORN on US soil to two foreign parents is a citizen of the United States. A child BORN on US soil to one foreign parent and one US citizen is a citizen of the United States. A person naturalized in the United States is a citizen of the United States. All Citizens of the United States can serve as Senators and Representatives. They cannot serve as President. So, now that we've figured out who CAN'T be President, who is left that CAN? A person with two US citizens as parents.

JeanQPublique

Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:54:39 -0500

Hmmmmm . . . What's with the crazy formatting at this joint? It's Sillier than it Seems ~JQP~

JeanQPublique

Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:49:38 -0500

I distinctly recall ">john5750 @ 12/05/08 05:31PM from another thread. And this is what I have to say. I have a burning desire to vent my spleen on john5750. By way of introduction, let me just say that john5750 likes to brag about how the members of his coalition are ideologically diverse. Perhaps that means that some of them prefer fried chicken over squirrel stew. In any case, john5750 has allowed himself to become a spokesman for the same point of view shared by logorrheic wheeler-dealers, insufferable criticasters, and infernal boeotians while masquerading as an outspoken radical bucking the coming system. One could imagine that some good might come from letting john5750 prevent us from recognizing the vast and incomparable achievements, contributions, and discoveries that are the product of our culture. But the only one whose imagination is vivid enough is john5750. I don't want to overstate this point, but difficult times lie ahead. Fortunately, we have the capacity to circumvent much of the impending misery by working together to extirpate dingbatism root, trunk, and branch. His reasoning is circular and therefore invalid. In other words, he always begins an argument with his conclusion (e.g., that the ancient Egyptians used psychic powers to build the pyramids) and therefore -- not surprisingly -- he always arrives at that very conclusion. We can all have daydreams about sitting in a cold two-holer crapper in the deep woods of Hog Hollow, where everyone looks just like john5750's aunt and uncle. But, not only will those daydreams not come true, but it does not require a Sherlock Holmes to prove that john5750's cock-and-bull stories are saturated with the disloyal, vindictive rhetoric that will sincerely keep a close eye on those who look like they might think an unapproved thought. The mere mention of that fact guarantees that this comment will never get published in any mass-circulation periodical that john5750 has any control over. But that's inconsequential because john5750 refers to a variety of things using the word "consubstantiationist". Translating this bit of jargon into English isn't easy. Basically, he's saying that at birth every living being is assigned a celestial serial number or frequency power spectrum, which we all know is patently absurd. At any rate, I want my life to count. I want to be part of something significant and lasting. I want to compare, contrast, and identify the connections among different types of lamebrained separatists. When I was younger I wanted to take stock of what we know, identify areas for further research, and provide a useful starting point for debate on john5750's caustic pleas. I still want to do that but now I realize that he apparently can't tell the difference between flirting and sexual harassment, between white lies and perjury, or between a schoolboy carrying a butter knife and carrying a switchblade. But what, you may ask, does any of that have to do with the theme of this comment, viz., that nothing makes my blood boil more than seeing him BS others by attempting to instill fears that only bounce around between his ears in that vacuous vacuum? Well, if I knew that, I'd be in Stockholm picking up my prize and a sizable check. For your edification, I should decidedly point out that john5750 has nothing but contempt for you, and you don't even know it. That's why I feel obligated to inform you that he uses obscure words like "saccharogalactorrhea" and "floccinaucinihilipilification" to conceal his agenda to support local churches as faith-based emporia teeming with impulse-buy items. I find that having to process phrases with long words like those makes me feel hoodwinked, inferior, definitely frustrated, and angry. That's why I strive for utmost clarity whenever I explain to others that john5750 has commented that everyone with a different set of beliefs from his is going to get a one-way ticket to Alabama to meet his cousin Bubba. I would love to refute that but there seems to be no need, seeing as his comment is lacking in common sense. As this letter draws to a close, I want to challenge you, the reader, to perform noble deeds. That's what I intend to do until my last breath. With regards ... Silly as it Seems ~Jean Q Publique~ .

12009dotorg

Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:40:45 -0500

Dear PUMAS, You all are a bunch of idiots! Please go back to the safety of your darr ughhh murphy litterbox know as pumapac and ask her what she has done with all your money..mmm k. 1-20-09

HCE

Sat, 06 Dec 2008 00:01:39 -0500

Judging by the comments, many of you are really concerned about Obama's legitimacy. Were you conned?Check out this link http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/birthcertificate/index

RJ

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:41:54 -0500

Wait wait....This thread is worse than Hitler END THREAD.

Adam Bailey

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:29:03 -0500

People know that children born abroad to at least one American citizen are also American citizens, right? Allowing the argument that he was born abroad, it still wouldn't make a difference, since his mom was Grade A Prime 'murican.

Bethesdaist

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:41:13 -0500

I protest the lack of churros in my diet. Want.

IMGoph

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:15:15 -0500

i did some research into the nature of my birth, and i come to find i'm a chimichanga. no wait, a churro.

Bethesdaist

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:08:17 -0500

Wow, all these one-post wonders are driving this thread to infinity and beyond - take the money and run, Somer. I got my passport with a copy of my birth certificate, as I lost the original in a move. But then again, I am a chupacabra. Maybe!

fdc123

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:57:11 -0500

thanks AIP guy. green is a cool color.

RockvilleSteve

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:48:10 -0500

One need not agree with everything that Leo Donofrio argues to support some of what he claims. I think his case raises important matters, and that our nation would be well-served if the question of whether Barack Obama is a natural born citizen is resolved before the Electoral College votes are cast on December 15. Hawaii officials say they won't show the state records to anybody other than Obama without an appropriate court order. I think we had to produce more documentation to allow our children to play little league baseball than Obama was required to produce to get on the ballot in all 50 states as the nominee of the Democratic Party. If Obama is a natural born citizen, I'll be glad to learn it. Not because I think he's a good choice for President, but because our Constitution will have been followed. If Obama is not a natural born citizen, I'll be glad to learn that too. What kind of blackmail would our President be subject to by somebody who had proof of his birth if it occurred elsewhere? I can't understand why so many folks seem so willing to let the Constitution be ignored in this case. One of the posters expressed interest in IDing me in the photos. Well, I joined the prayer circle shortly after those photos were taken. Sorry. If you look real carefully at the second video linked above you can see me at a distance -- I'm the guy with the green computer case.

Wizzyliz

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:39:30 -0500

Have you ever noticed that Osama bin Laden's birth certificate and Barack Obama's birth certificate are never in the same room together?

john5750

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:15:07 -0500

Obama should just be honest. That seems to be impossible for him. Why not release his college records, especially at Columbia in NY. Where he was just a block or so from Bill Ayers and his college. They belonged to the same groups. Word is because he took part in at least one of the bombings the Weather Underground committed in NY. His cousin, Odinga from Kenya, was also involved. I believe he is still in prison. There may have been a murder committed in this crime. There are just way too many secrets around Obama.

HCE

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:56:40 -0500

Obama is the guy who won multiple elections by digging into his opponents' sealed divorce records. If that is change you people believe in, then you are sick puppies. Asking if he is a US citizen is about 1000 times more legitimate than snooping around your opponents' divorce records.

fdc123

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:47:51 -0500

video of the wing-nuts they even start to argue amongst themselves http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Demonstrators_pray_Supreme_Court_will_invalidate_1205.html

mw2006

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:41:41 -0500

sore losers is the first thing that comes to mind.

john5750

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:31:35 -0500

Bottom line is if Obama had a legitimate birth certificate he would have shown it to avoid all these lawsuits against him. The one he posted on his website has been proven by 3 different independent experts to be a forgery. He, obviously, does not have a birth certificate to prove he is eligible because HE IS NOT ELIGIBLE. On his recent trip to Hawaii he apparently showed the county recorder how to make a statement leading people to believe he is legitimate without actually lying. She said the birth certificate was filed according to the rules. However, SHE DID NOT SAY HE WAS BORN IN HAWAII. Because he wasn't. He was born in Kenya, and when his mother went to Hawaii with him she registered him in Hawaii as a "out of state" birth. There are no birth records for him in either of the Hawaiian hospitals. His relatives in Kenya state he was born in Kenya. His Kenyan grandmother stated she was there for the actual birth. Bottom line: he can't prove he is a natural born U.S. citizen because he is not.

fdc123

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:50:03 -0500

just a warning; if you've never been to freerepublic before, its not work safe. filled with hate, racism, pro-torture, pro-muslim extermination... for safer doses google freepermadness its a cool blog about teh crazy freepers

blittle

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:41:24 -0500

Gosh, this thread is like angry revenge sex with a republican or (put in whatever ideology you don't agree with follower). I really could use a cigarette now. [takes a swig from the desk bourbon and prepares to enjoy the ride]

EdTheRed

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:36:34 -0500

Aw yeah! This here thread has hit the front page of memeorandum...get ready for a whole new level of crazy! If lovin' a good dose of teh crazy is wrong, I don't want to be right!

Jason Rodriguez

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:36:32 -0500

I went on over to the Free Republic thread that was sending folks to this thread. One poster compared these protesters to the first women suffrage protesters, Rosa Parks, and The Unknown Rebel from the Tienanmen Square protests. All in one post. And you guys thought the real crazy was showing up on DCist?

blittle

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:35:53 -0500

Wait a minute here. So from following all of your discussions, that means that even though I was born overseas to American parents, didn't get my citizenship papers until after a year and I don't have a birth certificate... OH MY GAWD. That means that a. I'm a chupacabra or b., I'm Obama. Maybe! Oh crap. does that mean you idjits will be protesting on my lawn too? Well, in that case, I live at Number One Observatory Circle Washington, DC And if you see an evil looking old white guy with a shot gun, don't worry, he's more friendly than he looks. :)

SpeakSoftlyCarryABigStick

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:34:56 -0500

You know, now that I think about it, I do remember watching a documentary on how Obama and McCain ran for president simply to steal the Hope Diamond; is anyone looking into THIS allegation????? I thought not; an irreplaceable national treasure in jeopardy and the only thing you all can think about is your damn articles of the Constitution! For shame! In the recent words of Bill Maher, "I just went from saying 'God damn America!' to 'God Damn, America!'." This is a ludicrous debate; he's a natural born citizen and the duly elected President-elect of the United States of America. Accept it; reality will be easier that way.

ahaak

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:27:58 -0500

Plus, dudes, the certificate of live birth says he was BORN IN HAWAII. It does not say "he was born".

cooter

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:25:33 -0500

You freeper retards know that the suit discussed by the Supreme Court today had nothing to do with his birth certificate, right? Your fellow 'tard, Denofrio, suggests that Obama is ineligible solely because he was entitled to British citizenship at birth because his father was a Kenyan national; Kenya being a part of the British empire at the time of Obama jr.'s birth. Please note that this retarded line of reasoning would eliminate all Jews from the White House since they are entitled to Israeli citizenship. Please also note that this would mean that Russia could pass a law declaring all folks born in the US entitled to Russian citizenship and no one born after that date could ever be president. bunch of morans

fdc123

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:25:04 -0500

steve, which one in the photo are you? i'd like to see what bat-sh*t crazy looks like.

fdc123

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:23:08 -0500

ahh the freeper trolls have showed up. get ready for lots of CAPS. i believe there's a direct relationship between the amount of caps a poster uses and the amount of wingnut in that poster's brain.

arnolde

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:19:32 -0500

Wow! Imagine NSA, CIA and FBI who can find out just about anything about anybody, don't have a problem with his citizenship, but these kooks with their cut & paste arguments do. Guess it's not only the poor who will always be with us.. lmao

ahaak

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:19:21 -0500

Ummm....Obama HAS a passport...cuz he's visited his family abroad right? So either he has been able to produce a birth certificate in the past, or whoever said you need an original to get a passport is wrong. I agree with the person who says that the certificate must say something embarassing. I'm not sure all birth certificates have a religion on them though.

boygeorge

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:18:36 -0500

guest number 10: still awaiting sentencing. Obamacabra.

RockvilleSteve

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:17:55 -0500

I was one of those who gathered in front of Supreme Court this morning. The announcement I saw described it as a vigil to show support for the justices and Leo Donofrio. I'm a plaintiff in one of the federal lawsuits on the 'natural born' issue filed before the election, and I served the legal papers -- required in a California state lawsuit -- at the Senate offices of Obama and Biden recently too. If McCain had been elected, I'd be challenging his qualification under the "natural born" provision too. The person in this thread who claims McCain was born on a military base in Canal Zone is mistaken. McCain's birth certificate clearly indicates the city in the Republic of Panama where he was born. An open letter I'm sending to the 10 Electors in Maryland is available at AIPnews. AIP is a new national political party -- America's Independent Party. We're already the third-largest national party, behind only the Democrats and Republicans, in terms of the number of registered voters. And we're not satisfied with being third. I think the Republicans are 'Whigging-out'. One of our goals in Maryland is to be amongst the top two parties in terms of new or switched voter registrations by 2012. To do that, we first need to get 10,000 Maryland voters to sign our petition to have our new party recognized by the state.

Esmeralda

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:49:15 -0500

Great, Wizzyliz. Now I have "'Cause paranoia will destroy ya" stuck in my head - and I don't even know the rest of that song!

guest number 10

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:48:39 -0500

boygeorge, shouldn't you be in jail right now?

EdTheRed

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:44:11 -0500

I'm still waiting to see George W. Bush's birth certificate. I mean, that pasty white sumbitch never actually provided me with one!

Wizzyliz

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:41:14 -0500

paranoia (per-ə-noi-a) noun: a disorder in which a person becomes overly suspicious and emotionally sensitive

boygeorge

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:40:00 -0500

Obama is a chupacabra!

HCE

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:33:44 -0500

This man has proved to NO ONE that he is eligible to actually run for the Office of President of the United States. I don't have a problem with the Obama Presidency but by all means I would hold my elected officials to the same ethical and legal obligations that I am bound by. I have to follow laws and they should too. Elected Officials are NOT above the law. Obama should prove he is eligible just as you or I would have to prove our eligibility when applying for any new job. His absolute refusal at this point is highly suspect and I don't think anyone can disagree to this. I hated the Bush Presidency because that man thought he was above the law. I don't want to start out a new presidency under the same precedent as the previous. Regardless of how much we may like Obama, if the man is not legally eligible, he doesn't need to be in Office. Flat-out! I want him to prove he is eligible. The consequences are too dire for him not too. If he gets into Office and then it is found out at a later time that he was indeed not eligible, that would mean any legislation he signed, and bills created and any precedents set would all be null-n-void. Military personnel wouldn't be required to follow the instructions of the President. All hell would break lose. Lets quash this now. Obama... SHOW US THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

Jim

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:32:12 -0500

EdTheRed

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:31:02 -0500

Man, I *really* hate America. Oh crap, I just said that out loud just now, didn't I? Yesssss...sorry!

mrdeltoid

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:30:30 -0500

These people believe the notion of traveling abroad before puberty and not on the US Army's dime is grounds for treason. McCain was born in Panama for crying out loud. They do have a point though, as the US Constitution Article 2, section 1, clause 5 clearly states that the sole prerequisite for Presidential eligibility is: To be born in a small town, to live in a small town, to probably die in a small town, to be educated in a small town, taught the fear of Jesus in a small town. Oh wait, that's Johnny Cougar not Jimmy Madison.

monkeyrotica

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:30:13 -0500

All we know is that hundreds of millions of dollars were spent to fool Americans to believe in an empty suit whose parents, mentors, relatives, friends and associates were Marxists who hate America. See, now why did you have to do that? You were making a perfectly legitimate, albeit tinfoilhatted, argument that there may be an odd chance brotha may not be what he says he is. Then you had to shoot yoruself in the foot with that Marxists-who-hate-America claptrap. This is the point where reasonable argument becomes partisan politics. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call "Wingnutville."

Hillman

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:28:27 -0500

If I pay $12 will John Adams and Antonio tattoo the fake Obama 'live birth certificate' on my bare ass?

RJ

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:27:46 -0500

Congrats on your first post AntonioSosa.

AntonioSosa

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:22:41 -0500

You are right, John Adams. It's incredible how the brainwashed seems to think that it's normal that no one except for Obama and some of his family really know where he was born. Obama's stubborn refusal to sign a release and pay $12.00 has created a national crisis. The State of Hawaii has confirmed he was born in Hawaii. They have not. They said is that they are holding his original birth certificate, which the State can only release if Obama signs a release and pays the $12.00. No records of Obama's birth have been found in any hospital in Hawaii. Who was the doctor that helped with the delivery? Additionally, Obama has had practically all his records sealed. Why? We don't really know who he is. All we know is that hundreds of millions of dollars were spent to fool Americans to believe in an empty suit whose parents, mentors, relatives, friends and associates were Marxists who hate America.

monkeyrotica

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:21:56 -0500

I don't know about that, Hutch. But word on the street is that his junk is real. And it's fabulous. He's also down with a pimp called "Silky."

TimmyTucker

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:20:22 -0500

I'm still skeptical that this "Hawaii" is even a state at all. I've never heard of it until now. What kind of REAL Americans wear grass shirts, coconut bras, and put Tom Selleck in charge of police operations??

Jim

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:18:25 -0500

"Almost everything about Obama is FAKE, including possibly his birth certificate." AND ALSO HIS TEETH!!!!!

AntonioSosa

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:15:46 -0500

It seems brainwashed Americans are not ready to see the truth. Americans were FOOLED. Almost everything about Obama is FAKE, including possibly his birth certificate. The Obama image was manufactured by a very expensive campaign, financed with hundreds of millions of dollars, donated largely by U.S. enemies such as George Soros. It turns out Americans are as foolish as the most ignorant Venezuelans, Bolivians and Ecuadorians who believed in CHANGE and YES WE CAN and now see that CHANGE means change toward Marxism, loss of freedom and rights, and greater poverty, despair and corruption. And YES WE CAN means Marxists like Castro, Chavez and Obama CAN fool people It seems Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov was right when he warned that, through media manipulation, Americans would be brainwashed and would allow their country to be taken over by Marxists: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwlBt1 If Obama does not meet Constitutional requirements to hold the office of President, the Court must decertify the election. Americans have the right to be protected from Marxists planted by U.S. enemies to destroy us.

James Orleans

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:12:57 -0500

Er... I showed by birth certificate in order to get my passport. Shouldn't Mr. Obama at least show his before he gets the highest security clearance the United States has to give?

Deep

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:08:33 -0500

Obama is Bigfoot!

stmove

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:05:38 -0500

As if Hawaii is any more American than the Philippines. Ha. Oh yea, they have a Costco there, oh but they do in the Philippines too- damn. A rock in the middle of the Pacific ain't no 'Merica no anyway!

EdTheRed

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:03:10 -0500

@out on an island: Indeed. Also, sarcasm is the scourge of teh interwebs.

out_on_an_island

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:55:33 -0500

OldPosterKnownasCranky: Has anyone else heard that Obama is black? I read it somewhere on the Interwebbednets. You know I had heard that somewhere too. It turns out he is actually bi-racial (having one black and one white parent), and is only 'black' if you subcribe to the old racialist 'one drop' theory. One Drop, like the song performed by another biracial individual - Bob Marley - who had one white and one black parent. Yet he is almost always labeled as 'black.' Racism is the scourge of intelligent minds.

PAonPenn

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:43:10 -0500

Re the video - have fun trying to meet on the steps of the temple-like building. I'm sure the security guards would love to have a word with you. You better stick to the sidewalk.

EdTheRed

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:42:52 -0500

@Kev29: I thought Almonte was riding the pine next to Freddy in Monaco?

Jim

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:42:36 -0500

@Jim: read the line again; Amanda wrote "strongest" not strong. Big difference. The other challenges haven't warrented a review by the Supreme Court, this one has. Hence it is by definition the "strongest." But it most definitly is not "strong" to make it much further. Just because the SC agreed to look at it (they do this with hundreds of cases) doesn't mean they will hear arguements (which is only dozens of cases a year). Two clarifications, SpeakSoftly. A) it's not Amanda, she just posted it; it was Dave Weigel of Reason who wrote it, I believe. B) I don't think the fact that it was before the Supreme Court makes it "strong" or "stronger" or "strongest" - it just means someone ponied up the filing fee and the time to write the petition. Of course, as you noted, simply having a first amendment right to do something doesn't make it reasonable or right. And - not directed at SpeakSoftly - having a right to "petition for redress of grievances" does not really have a thing to do with Supreme Court review. They are going to immediately look for standing, and I suspect they will find that the petitioner has none. THESE ARE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS......... Well, I didn't believe you until you shouted about it.

Kev29

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:40:16 -0500

Barack Obama, Freddy Adu and Danny Almonte have never been seen in the same room. FACT!

MahoganyShip

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:38:24 -0500

The funny thing about all this is that John McCain was indisputably born on a U.S. Naval base in Panama -- which is clearly not a part of the United States. While the base was part of the now-defunct Panama Canal zone, which was established by the Hay Bunau-Varilla treaty in 1903, that agreement was in essence a rental contract between the U.S. and a newly-sovereign Panama, whereby the U.S. paid Panama $250,000 annually for the rights to the territory established in the zone. Whether that contract could be considered the basis of natural-born citizenship would probably be for the courts to decide -- but of course we aren't having that discussion because McCain lost and, in any event, he's white.

monkeyrotica

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:34:56 -0500

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Grandma is beating-off the Indians. What if he wasn't even born in Kenya? Did any of you ever think of that? What if he wasn't even born on Earth? What if he was born in the fabulous Hollow Earth Land of Pellucidar? What if he's actually the fabled Phantom of the Poles? And here we were worried that Obama was a crypto Muslim when, all the time, he was a crypto-Morlock! You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!

OldPosterKnownAsCranky

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:33:41 -0500

Has anyone else heard that Obama is black? I read it somewhere on the Interwebbednets.

EdTheRed

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:33:30 -0500

@johnadams: yeah, that stupid certification is only good enough to get you a U.S. passport, but not to, you know, show you were born in the...oh, nevermind. For the record, I have a certification, too, not a certificate. It was issued almost 12 years after I was born, which is when I first needed it, in order to get a passport...and the fools at the passport office actually gave me one! HAH! Little do they know that I'm the white love child of Malcom X AND WAS BORN IN THE CONGO A MONTH BEFORE THE RUMBLE IN THE JUNGLE!!! God, I'd kinda missed the crazy around these parts.

indiecognition

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:27:54 -0500

So when Obama was an infant, his family was so sure that he'd grow up and be president that they went to all possible extents not only to make sure he got American citizenship, but also covered up foreign birth and/or citizenship? Not knowing he would be elected President, dual citizenship would probably be an advantage and not something to try to hide at the time he was a baby. And he did have dual citizenship through his childhood and into his political career, where's the paper trail?f And why would he have put everything into the Presidency if he had faulty credentials, when any other position in the country would be open and he has more than enough talent to achieve them? A conspiracy to be President is so much harder to pull off than becomming CEO of a huge, powerful MNC. All signs regarding the citizenship "conspiracy" point to bullshit. I have trouble believing that when Obama was still a baby his family would have had any reason to cover up his nation of origin. And if it were something more recent during his political career, there'd just have to be some dirt that Clinton or McCain could've dug up. The fact that this waited til after the election was over clearly shows me that Obama proved everything he needed to, and all his documents were sufficient.

guest number 10

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:27:15 -0500

They've arrived! #1 sign you're crazy: POSTING IN ALL CAPS Incidentally, same as the #1 sign your Craigslist post is not for a BRAND NEW ROD IRON TABLE NEVER USED!

monkeyrotica

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:26:56 -0500

See, it's times like this when I really miss pleskowicz. Sniff. Excuse me. I think I have something in my eye.

superdude

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:24:12 -0500

ughhh this issue is really bringing all the crazies out on DCist, isn't it? if no one cared that John McCain was born in Panama, why do we care if Obama was born in Kenya? Is Panama more pro-American than Kenya?

IntangibleArts

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:23:35 -0500

c'mon, RAPTURE. Git these zombies offa my plane of reality...

RJ

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:21:37 -0500

I love how this topic has brought out the crazy first time commentators. I just hope they stay, because people arguing with crazy is quality entertainment.

johnadams

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:21:14 -0500

This media is finally being forced to cover this. The issue started with McCain. As far back as last February you can find an article in the New York Times accusing McCain of not being a "natural born citizen". McCain then produced all of his birth records for review by the Senate and after review they declared that under the law McCain was a "natural born citizen". http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-sr511/text At the same time questions were being asked of Obama. The press then like now have a blackout on any topic that may be negative towards him. If you look at the link you will see Obama was present for the vote on McCain. Did Obama take the time to stand up and say,"Ladies and Gentlemen, I have been asked this same question and would like you to review all of my records so that this question can be answered before the election. As a Constitutional attorney I understand the crisis that would result from an ineligible candidate being elected." Instead Obama produced a worthless piece of paper to websites like factcheck, fighthesmears, and others. The problem is that even if the CERTIFICATION of Live Birth is authentic, it is not evidence in Hawaii of where a child was born. A person cannot get a drivers license of a passport with what Obama produced. Here is what the State of Hawaii says about the difference between a "CERTIFICATION" versus a "CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH". The Certification is not good to prove where you are born and requires a person to sign a release and have the State produce a Certificate of Live Birth. http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl "In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL." So at this point in time no one except for Obama and some of his family really know where he was born. His stubborn refusal to sign a release and pay $12.00 has created a national crisis. And please do not keep saying the State of Hawaii has confirmed he was born in Hawaii. They have not. In a carefully worded release all they have said is that they are holding his original birth certificate, which the State can only release if Obama signs a release and pays the $12.00. For example, Obama's half sister was born in Indonesia. The laws in Hawaii at the time allowed a Hawaiian citizen to register that birth in Hawaii within one year of the birth. So Obama's parents registered his half-sister’s birth in Hawaii, just like Obama. His sister can produce a Certification of Live Birth that would look almost identical to Obama's. Does that prove she was born in Hawaii? No. All of the hospitals at the time would send a list of all birth registrations to the local papers to be issued in the local paper. So why is it important to know where Obama was born? The laws at the time, and that would still apply to Obama, are such that if he was born in a foreign country he would not be a "natural born citizen". That would be due to the fact that his mother was a US citizen, his father a foreign national. Obama's mother would have had to live in the US for five years after the age of 14. She was several months short of that when Obama was born. So until Obama signs a release and pays the $12.00 there is only speculation because the Certification of Live Birth produced by Obama does not prove that he was born in Hawaii. There are also the questions of whether Obama gave his US citizenship up in Indonesia, how he came to travel to Pakistan in 1981 when it was a no fly zone for US citizens. There is also the question whether Obama registered at colleges as an Indonesian citizen. So Obama and the DNC have brought this on themselves. This has been an issue since at least last February. Obama and his legal team have sealed all of his records. Three law firms showed up for Obama and the DNC in the Berg case to fight the case on the technical ground that a citizen cannot ask a candidate this question. To date Obama has spent over $800.000.00 to protect his past and the production of a $12.00 birth certificate. There are now upwards of 30 law suits filed around the country, five to the Supreme Court. One filed in California Sacramento Superior Court Case 80000096 by Alan Keyes the Independent Party candidate that was on the ballot. As he was on the ballot he will not suffer the technical challenge of lack of standing.

Kev29

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:20:30 -0500

You know what this ummm... debate(?) needs? Some all-caps style ranting. Oh shit, taken care of!

Wizzyliz

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:18:44 -0500

Oh, for the love of God!!!!!!! Do we really want these Supremes to have the final word (again!) on who gets to be the Next President of the United States of America??? Okay, okay, maybe America's Next Top Model, but not POTUS.

DE

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:09:27 -0500

STOP SHOUTING, sherryande!!!!

SpeakSoftlyCarryABigStick

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:08:58 -0500

Some questions have been raised, and I think I have some answers: First, @Jim: read the line again; Amanda wrote "strongest" not strong. Big difference. The other challenges haven't warrented a review by the Supreme Court, this one has. Hence it is by definition the "strongest." But it most definitly is not "strong" to make it much further. Just because the SC agreed to look at it (they do this with hundreds of cases) doesn't mean they will hear arguements (which is only dozens of cases a year). Second, @Island: Should the sky fall, and the SC gets anal probed by Kang and Kodos into overturning the election, but before the Electoral College casts their votes, the Dems would be able to replace Obama with whoever they want (Biden or anyone). I saw a Slate.com Explainer article on this awhile back. After the Electoral College casts their votes, and Obama is the winner, then the S**T hits the fan; we're in a constitutional crisis like no other before. God knows what's happens; which is another big reason why nothing will happen. The SC doesn't like to directly interfer in normally properly functioning democratic processes (2000 FL not withstanding). Third, also @Island: FBI is in charge of background checks; they do them for anyone going before the Senate for confirmation. What has been reported by actual, fact checking organizations is that Obama's HI birth certifcate is in a vault in HI, probably next to everyone else's who have been born in the state. These "copies" aren't copies in the normal sense of the word, but official gov documents, just not the original that states kinda don't want to lose. Hence keeping it locked in a safe, to keep it, you know, safe. Fourth, these people do have a 1st Ammendment right to petition the government, and that deserves to be repected, especially since there is a large majority who are calling them down. However, just because they deserve the right to petition, does not mean they are right (or sane). This is an incredable waste of time, especially considering all the (similarly crazy) issues that arose with McCain's own citizenship status. Lay off it people; Obama won, move on. Put your energies into the democratic process (not the judicial process) to get the policies you want. It's really that simple!

arglebargle

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:08:45 -0500

Taking my tinfoil hat off.. If I had to guess I'd bet he isn't releasing the original because it has something on it that would be politically damaging.. like father:unknown or religion:muslim.

out_on_an_island

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:08:28 -0500

Petitq: Whatever happened to the "sacredness" of the political system? The election is over and he won fair and square. Leave him alone. Just because you don't like the results, doesn't mean you have the right to overturn them. We voted. Move on. What 'sacredness'? Government operates under the rule of law. The paramount law in the U.S. is the Constitution, which states that the President must be a citizen. If Arnold Schwarznegger somehow got on the ballot and was elected president by 100% of the population in a 'fair and square' election, he still could not be President because he is not a citizen. Just like Obama could not be president - despite being elected - if it somehow turned out that he is not a citizen. The right to challenge the results also stems from the Constitution - you know, the whole 'right to petition the government for a redress of greivances' thing. Now, it seems pretty obvious that these protesters have run out of options and are using the 'kitchen sink' approach to stopping Obama being president. However as an attorney I take a very objective view of situations such as this. I try to strip away the rhetoric and name-calling and take a look at the genuine issue (if there is one). I'd like to point out that I do not support these protesters one bit, and I voted for Obama, but I also believe in the Constitution. It's the foundation of our entire system of government.

monkeyrotica

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:06:01 -0500

SENSE. This protest makes none.

sherryande

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:05:12 -0500

I'm wondering, what is the normal 'background check' process for Presidential candidates? Who exactly is in charge of checking the citizenship status of candidates for office? Since citizenship is a constitutional requirement, someone must check it, right? THIS IS PART OF THE PROBLEM, WE HAVE NO STATE LAW THAT REQUIRES VERIFICATION PRIOR TO THE ELECTION. WE ACTUALLY HAD A CANDIDATE WITH A GREEN CARD ON THE BALLOT IN FIVE STATES IN THIS LAST CAMPAIGN. THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT EACH PARTY WILL VET THEIR CANDIDATE HOWEVER IT IS NOT REQUIRED. Of course, I'm certain these protesters are only pushing this issue because Obama is half-black, but this sounds like the type of thing that could be settled very easily in about 17 seconds. Wasn't Obama born in Hawaii? I was under the impression that anyone born on U.S. soil is a U.S. citizen. THIS REALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE, THIS IS SIMPLY A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE. THE SAME ISSUE THAT McCAIN HAD TO ANSWER LAST FEBRUARY - WHICH HE ANSWERED. How exactly would Obama have dual British citizenship anyway? AT THE TIME OF HIS BIRTH KENYA (HIS FATHERS COUNTRY) WAS STILL PART OF THE BRITISH COLONIES. THE CONSTITUTION WAS WRITTEN THE WAY THAT IT WAS TO PREVENT ALLEGIANCES TO ANY OTHER COUNTRY EXCEPT THE UNITED STATES - FOR OUR PROTECTION. Whatever happened to the "sacredness" of the political system? The election is over and he won fair and square. Leave him alone. Just because you don't like the results, doesn't mean you have the right to overturn them. We voted. Move on. I BELIEVE WE ALL AGREE TO THE "SACREDNES" OF OUR DEMOCRACY, FOR WHICH THE CONSTITUTION IS THE VERY BASIS. HOWEVER, THE ELECTION IS NOT OVER UNTIL THE ELECTORS HAVE PLACED THEIR VOTES ON DECEMBER 15TH. THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN ON THE TABLE FOR OVER A YEAR UNANSWERED. PLEASE DON'T BLAME THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS AFTER ALL THIS TIME. THE QUESTION SHOULD BE "WHY HAVEN'T THESE QUESTIONS BEEN ANSWERED?". FACT - HAWAII DOES ALLOW FOREIGN BORN CHILDREN TO HAVE THEIR BIRTHS REGISTERED IN THE STATE AND HAWAII WOULD PROVIDE A CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH IN SUCH CASES. HAWAII HAS NOT STATED THAT OBAMA WAS BORN IN HAWAII, ONLY THAT HIS ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS WERE FILED IN ACCORDANCE WITH HAWAII GUIDELINES. WHY DIDN'T THEY SAY HE WAS BORN THERE? FACT - OBAMA WAS BORN UNDER DUAL CITIZENSHIP AS STATED ON HIS OWN WEBSITE - PLEASE TAKE A LOOK. THESE ARE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS.........

arglebargle

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:58:24 -0500

Putting my tin-foil hat on... The angle they are taking is that Obama was not actually born in Hawaii, and that his 'original' Birth Certificate would show that. The birth certificate Obama has produced is official, re-issued by the state of Hawaii. But it is not the original. Hawaii at the time would issue a birth certificate to a child if the parents had residence in Hawaii in the past year, no matter where the child was born. The conspiracy theory goes, the original may show place of birth as someplace not in the US, while the re-issue does not. So he would not be a 'natural' born citizen, and may have dual citizenship with the country wherever you believe he was born. Obama has not granted permission for Hawaii to disclose his original birth certificate, in fact he is fighting it tooth and nail. Obama's position is that the re-issued certificate is all that is needed.

marigold

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:56:43 -0500

I don't understand why people say Obama is hiding something and isn't talking about who he is?! He has provided a reasonable measure of documentation - I would imagine that he is ignoring the rest because it's preposterous and a waste of his time.

out_on_an_island

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:53:58 -0500

Deep: What if they're correct in him not being a US citizen? Do we have another election? Does Biden step up to bat? Can this really happen? I would think the odds of him not being a citizen are incredibly long, but of course if he is somehow not a citizen then he cannot be President. Anything can happen, but that does not mean that it will (or should) happen.

petitq

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:48:23 -0500

Whatever happened to the "sacredness" of the political system? The election is over and he won fair and square. Leave him alone. Just because you don't like the results, doesn't mean you have the right to overturn them. We voted. Move on.

monkeyrotica

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:47:43 -0500

"BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA" is an anagram for "BE MY GIRL SALLY!" This was foretold in the Book of Revelations and The Police's debut album "Outlandos d'Amour!" BLAARGGAG! [Drinks strichnyne, rolls on floor handling snakes, soils self.]

out_on_an_island

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:39:27 -0500

I'm wondering, what is the normal 'background check' process for Presidential candidates? Who exactly is in charge of checking the citizenship status of candidates for office? Since citizenship is a constitutional requirement, someone must check it, right? Of course, I'm certain these protesters are only pushing this issue because Obama is half-black, but this sounds like the type of thing that could be settled very easily in about 17 seconds. Wasn't Obama born in Hawaii? I was under the impression that anyone born on U.S. soil is a U.S. citizen. How exactly would Obama have dual British citizenship anyway?

Deep

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:38:01 -0500

What if they're correct in him not being a US citizen? Do we have another election? Does Biden step up to bat? Can this really happen?

IMGoph

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:34:41 -0500

where have all the paultards gone? i really miss their crazy style as well...

monkeyrotica

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:32:24 -0500

I'm pretty sure God's more likely to listen to the chipmunk in the Photo of the Day than these folks. I mean, put yourself in His shoes. Who'd you rather listen to, a chipmunk or the Flat Earth Society? Be honest.

Kev29

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:31:04 -0500

"He's got long air, works as a carpenter" 'long air'?... monkeyrotica's gone cockney

Jim

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:25:30 -0500

"The "dual born citizen" claim is the latest (and maybe strongest) attempt On what basis? There's certainly no evidence you discuss here that merits calling some random nutcase's legal brief a "strong" attempt to undo a democratic election.

stmove

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:23:33 -0500

Reid: That is why they are praying, you see god grants prayers only in close proximity to the prayer-power-receiver, sort of like cell tower triangulation, in this case the power must be focused at the Court. If you want to send a laser beam of god power into a building, you must be within 2 blocks. Praying from home don't work. I tried.

cooter

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:22:11 -0500

Freep away, James Orleans! This place could use more crazy.

Deep

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:21:08 -0500

One of us. One of us. One of us.

tvc15

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:20:19 -0500

16 people show up and it merits a posting? These people are potential candidates for the Darwin awards. They shouldn't be rewarded with media coverage. Other nutcases may find out and join their twisted lot.

McGillicuddy

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:19:27 -0500

it's all fun and games until Obama launches a nuclear attack on the US with his Blackberry while he sits safely in an North African bunker.

EdTheRed

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:19:06 -0500

@James Orleans: Oooh, that's good Concern Trolling™!

monkeyrotica

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:18:20 -0500

Exactly. What's so crazy about people exercising their Constitutional rights? I know another crazy guy. He's got long air, works as a carpenter, has a lot of crazy ideas about love and brotherhood. His name's Gunnar and he's dating my mom. Sometimes he buys us beer.

James Orleans

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:14:24 -0500

Why are you all so flippant about a legitimate Constitutional question?

Reid

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:11:05 -0500

I've never understood the impulse to protest the Supreme Court. Do people really want the justices to be making their decisions based upon a crowd outside their offices? Really?

Kev29

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:10:37 -0500

They've also asked the Supreme Court to look in to the fact that Barack Obama has allegedly fathered two black children

Deep

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:10:34 -0500

I found it!

monkeyrotica

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:06:51 -0500

Pssst. According to this recently-published pamphlet called "The Protocals of the Elders of Zion," WHICH I FOUND ON THE INTERNET, the world is actually run by twelve dwarves in a basement in Zurich. Pass it on. Do the research! Go online and look up the facts!

gswiszcza

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:06:50 -0500

I can't believe you actually gave so much blog space to the crazies.

stmove

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:05:02 -0500

Back home question #2: "The angels that make my car move have stopped working, do I need a tune-up? or exorcism?"

OldPosterKnownAsCranky

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:04:42 -0500

Just wait until the kooks find out Obama has fathered several black offspring...

RJ

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:04:42 -0500

Unseen in this photo, are casting agents ready to tell them how they can cash in their slightly unstable mental capacity and relative low IQ into Reality TV gold!

yonas

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:02:22 -0500

Jesus Christ. Some people can really have a fucked up sense of reality. I wonder if conspiracies are as popular in other countries as they are here.

monkeyrotica

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:59:30 -0500

"There are a lot of people talking about this back home. Really, everyone's asking questions." I know I am. Questions like, "WTF is wrong with people nowdays?"

WestEnder

Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:55:50 -0500

In the picture, it looks like they have their heads bowed, in the traditional posture used by those who believe they are telepathically communicating with supernatural beings. Just goes to show: once you let one delusional belief into your life, it's easier to believe in other silly delusions.