Our occasional series "Secret History" features profiles of classic D.C. albums as a way of looking back at the District's contributions to music over time. In this installment, we take a look at the Nation of Ulysses's 13-Point Program to Destroy America (Dischord, 1991).
D.C. post-hardcore of the late '80s and early '90s, while undeniably awesome, could be a bit dire. Mapping out an exciting new musical territory informed by the energy of punk, the dedication of hardcore, and the tunefulness of pop, but doing it with furrowed brows and studious frowns, many D.C. bands of the era came perilously close to overdosing on earnestness. Which is why the Nation of Ulysses were so welcome. Fronted by the insistently sartorial, perfectly-coiffed, and unnervingly charismatic Ian Svenonius (Sassy Magazine's Sassiest Boy In America, 1991), the Nation of Ulysses were a five-man army spouting a revolutionary youth manifesto founded on sleep deprivation, parent destruction and insurrectionary separatism. It sounded cracked and brilliant, the product of over-caffeinated punks down with Situationalism, Futurists, Constructivists, classic soul, and raw garage power.
According to Svenonius, who has since fronted Cupid Car Club, The Make-Up, the Scene Creamers, Weird War, and most recently Chain and the Gang, and who graciously sat down with DCist recently to discuss the Nation of Ulysses, “The Nation of Ulysses really started as an ideological program before we ever struck a note of music
. We were really different
. We had a gang sensibility. We all lived together. It was more of a cult than a band. It was explicitly a political party. We were explicitly modeling ourselves on something like the Vice Lords, a gang from Chicago that became a political party.”
The Nation of Ulysses wanted to burn down the palace, dance on the ashes, and build a fresh new society. And they wanted to do it all for the kids, man. The guiding concept was anti-parent culture, and teenage kicks were the order of the day as the Nation of Ulysses crafted the new sound of young America, a brazen, impatient racket and an incendiary call to arms that blended adolescent vigor, a healthy dose of humor, and ideological theatrics. These weren’t just records; they were weapons.
Inherent in the approach was a deep distrust of the baby-boomer generation. “At the time,” says Svenonius, “the baby-boomers were codifying their achievements and kind of laying claim to everything. And that was really harmful, and it still is harmful . If you watch a ‘50s movie or a ‘40s movie, you’re always shocked at the sexual content or the style or something, because we’re brainwashed into thinking that the ‘60s created everything. Like, ‘Oh, I didn’t think that people had sex before the ‘60s, or that they talked explicitly, or that they talked in an anti-authoritarian way, or that people were cynical before the ‘60s! I thought the ‘60s invented that!’ That’s bullshit.”
Despite this disdain for manufactured nostalgia, Svenonius readily admits that the Nation of Ulysses took their cues from past musical movements of the right kind, namely ‘60s soul, r ‘n’ b, and Nuggets-style garage. “Our guitar player [Tim Green] was in [‘60s garage and psychedelic revivalists] the Vile Cherubs, and we were all into garage rock,” says Svenonius, “We never wanted to be punk. We weren’t a punk revival group at all. In fact, we were interested in all kinds of different music. We were interested in music as subculture, and subcultural movements based around music.”
The Nation of Ulysses’s high-minded ideological and aesthetic vein wasn’t always entirely welcome. “People thought we were fashion victims. They didn’t like the fact that we wore suits on stage, that we always greased our hair . There was a real anti-fashion ethos happening,” Svenonius recollects. “It was very much divorced from the origins of punk. The origins of punk were very, like, peacock. It was a fashion thing . By the time the Nation of Ulysses existed, [the punk scene] hated clothes, hated fashion, hated vanity, hated any kind of dressing up.” In essence, says Sevonius, “We had this conservative ethos of dressing, you know, in clothes that fit. Which is still kind of a radical idea.”
While perhaps not as appreciated at the time as they should have been, the Nation of Ulysses has aged incredibly well. Listening to their 1991 debut long player 13-Point Program to Destroy America, it’s hard to imagine this much quality noise being kicked up by kids barely out of their teens (or even in their teens, in some cases). The Nation of Ulysses had a sophisticated style, bolting hardcore tempos and distortion to bruising, hip-shaking rhythms, finding the wide-eyed amphetamine fervor in the Stax/Volt template and upping the aggression considerably.
Heading into the studio, the band was obsessed with the production and sonic textures of the album, according to Svenonius. Unimpressed with the ultra-clean, hi-fidelity multi-tracking techniques of the period, which resulted in the “big” sound common to many ‘80s recordings, “We recorded the whole record on 2-track because we wanted a really rough sound, a messy sound. We wanted that kind of immediacy.” However, after recording the 2-track versions of the songs, the band headed back into the studio. “We made our record on 2-track, and it didn’t sound very good. So then Ian MacKaye was like, ‘Let me record you for real at Don’s [Don Zientara, the owner of Inner Ear Studios], let’s do a good job and make a good-sounding record,’ so that’s what we did.” In the final analysis, 13-Point Program to Destroy America may not sound exactly as the Nation of Ulysses envisioned it: “The first record didn’t really sound like ‘us’ to us,” says Svenonius. “It’s very clean, almost like a Ramones record. It’s almost like bubblegum, which is nice, I think, but at the time we wanted something that sounded much dirtier, grittier.”
Despite any misgivings Svenonius may have, it’s hard to argue against 13-Point Program’s power and immediacy. Coming across as a coffee-and-cola-addled apparatchik, Svenonius spews his lines in a raspy, unhinged howl, and occasionally splatters some trumpet mess all over everything; guitarists Tim Green and Steven Kroner trade live-wire riffs and frantic rhythm chops; bassist Steve Gamboa and drummer James Canty (brother of Fugazi's Brendan Canty and currently bassist for the Pharmacists) supply the armored undercarriage, keeping things swinging even as they dish out contusions and concussions. It's unrelenting and unsparing, a half-hour of hooky, hair-raising pandemonium.
Album highlights include opener "Spectra Sonic Sound," a rushing mauler of an opener and sign of things to come. "Look Out! Soul Is Back" is as much a warning as a sinister, chiming statement of purpose. "Today I Met the Girl I'm Going to Marry" is a love letter from an asylum inmate, a stalker's anthem crooned creepily by a clearly enthused Svenonius. "A Kid Who Tells on Another Kid is a Dead Kid" bursts forth on waves of surfy crunch, a nimble, Descendents-like bassline providing bouncy propulsion. "Diptheria" slows things down considerably while retaining the LP's intensity, a slow-fuse of a song punctuated by eruptions of mid-tempo mayhem. "You're My Miss Washington, D.C." is a nod to Jimmy Cliff’s “Miss Jamaica” and a loving tribute to the District, a hometown shout-out masquerading as an urgent call to make-out.
Reflecting on the Nation of Ulysses’s impact on future acts, Svenonius opines, “It was more the presentation of the Nation of Ulysses that really had an enormous effect on people. In a sense, I feel like the Nation of Ulysses really started a whole entire thing of bands thinking about presenting themselves in another kind of way.” And he may have a point, considering the current prevalence of bands like Interpol, the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, the White Stripes, and the Hives sporting a clearly defined aesthetic, their look as much a part of the act as their music. “I would say our influence - [in terms of] manifestos and band as gang/terror [group]/political party,” continues Svenonius, “was probably most strongly felt through the riot grrrl movement,” referencing the staunchly feminist punk and post-punk musical stylings of bands like Bikini Kill (with whom the Nation of Ulysses frequently toured), Bratmobile, and Heavens to Betsy.
Without a doubt, the Nation of Ulysses were a shining star in the bright night sky of early D.C. post-hardcore. They had chops and passion, but they also kept their sense of humor. Furthermore, Svenonius and Co. hit on a sound and style that has aged incredibly well, as exhilarating now, almost twenty years on, as it was the day it dropped. Listening to 13-Point Program to Destroy America today, it's easy to understand why all the sharp-dressed kids in the know used to chant the timeless mantra, "Ulysses, Ulysses, little flower, beloved by all the youth."



Very good album, but the liner notes are even better. Possibly the best album liner notes in history... I can't think of any better.
Nation of Ulysses and Bikini Kill played a killer show at my school in fall 91. We had a bunch of Sassy fans at our station, and the few attendees to the show were mostly curiosity seekers wanting to catch a glimpse of the Sassiest Boy in America.
Look out look out look out look out... Soul is Back!
Agreed with gerhardj: the liner notes were great, and one of the few sets of liner notes I ever read repeatedly purely for entertainment value. My favorite line was from James Canty's bio:
"Asked about his band by the press, James replied, 'We're sort of an epic Joycean assembly with bold futurist leanings,' before delivering solid punches to the jaws of the entire audience!"
Though the bit about Steve Gamboa spraying his territorial musk on all about him and claiming the heavens as his domain is great, too.
This record is one of the reasons I moved to D.C. after college in the mid-90s. I'd play it excitedly for people and then they'd look at me like I was a fucking lunatic.
I find it hard to believe this record is now pushing 20. Is it wrong to feel nostalgia for a record that adheres so fervently to an anti-nostalgia agenda? Discuss.