In case you haven’t seen it yet, here’s the video that’s been kind of blowing our minds today: William Shatner, of all people, landed an interview with Lee Malvo, one of the two men who terrorized the Washington region with sniper rifles in 2002. Along with John Allen Muhammad, Malvo had a hand in 14 deaths — and he tells Shatner that the original plan involved two more people who would all be equipped with silenced sniper rifles in an attempt to kill more civilians.

“There were two other people that were supposed to be involved but in the end, they ended up backing out,” Malvo said. “What was supposed to happen was there was supposed to be three to four snipers with silenced weapons, silenced rifles and in this way you could do a lot more damage along the eastern seaboard.”

Shatner’s got a new series to plug, so he obviously milks the interview for all he can, despite the fact that Mohammed and Malvo’s plans to escalate their carnage can be easily found with a simple Google search. Mohammed was executed in November 2009. Since he was only 17 at the time of the crime, Malvo managed to avoid the death penalty; he is currently serving several consecutive life sentences in a Virginia prison.

But yeah, we’d be hard-pressed to come up with a more random, unexpected person to interview convicted killers than William Shatner.